Would you support Georgia joining the European Union?

[Pallantides]

Georgia has very a interesting history and I respect them as a people, but just as Ranger stated I don't wish them to lose their national identify.

[d3cimat3d]

Well most of Georgia is within the recognized boundary of Europe, so why not.

[Tony]

Well most of Georgia is within the recognized boundary of Europe, so why not.

Actually according to the Caucasus watershed Georgia lies beyond the range so she should be considered as an Asian country , at least geographically speaking.
But that's not my main point in wantin' to keep 'em out , EU is already a mess , the more backwarded countries we let in the more ruined we get , to make it short.
Even if racially and culturally speaking I consider them as belonging to the Eurosphere.

[Hussar]

NO


And NOT for the reasons of most of peoples here. Not for cultural reasons.


The main point isn't just that "they aren't europeans" etc. etc. No.

The problem is more crucial : they want to join the EU to join NATO at once. In this way they make easy the big strategical plan of USA.

If Georgia will be accepted (i don't think), then Wahington will get a double strike :

1) To gain a strategic platform against Russia and the whole ex soviet area (since STILL the 90% of anglo-saxon "think tank" consider Moskow a danger to the american "liberal democracy")
Georgia would be an excellent bridge to allow a flux of helps, weapons etc. etc. to rebel movments in northern caucasus (we would witness a flourish of terroristic factions against Moskow).

2) Contribute to the weakening of a political identity of EUROPE : Washington knows that the eventual birth of a pan european politic nationalism (and consequently the turning of EU in a politic/military super power, independant from NATO) would be very dangerous for their global interests. In the same stategic/ideologic contest, you can understand why USA are favourables to a country like TURKEY in the UE : Turkey is a NATO country and admitting it in the union would mean A = avoiding permanently any possibility of an independent role of Europe in the internationa arena, strengthening its tie with NATO and then to the U.S.A. interest) B = contributing to a crisis of political identity of Europe, thank the presence of a BIG muslim country inside the union.



So.....no. I wouldn't support Georga joining EU. I'm not going to be a collaborator of "american politic of power". RATHER (i want to be provokative) i would support an annexation of Georgia by the Russia Federation.

[Liffrea]

Originally Posted by Nomad
Well most of Georgia is within the recognized boundary of Europe, so why not.

As I’m sure anyone who has studied the member nations of the European football governing body UEFA are aware what constitutes Europe becomes very fluid and downright strange around the edges!

[d3cimat3d]

As I’m sure anyone who has studied the member nations of the European football governing body UEFA are aware what constitutes Europe becomes very fluid and downright strange around the edges!

Whats strange is the Turanid countries like Ukraine and south Russia are considered in Europe, yet a pure Caucasoid country like Georgia doesn't qualify. Some people argue that Europe ends at the Rhine, since anything east of that is "Mongrel" land.

[Praamžius]

Whats strange is the Turanid countries like Ukraine and south Russia are considered in Europe

Turanid influence in Ukraine is minor and south Russia is border of Europe , so what so strange about that?

[poiuytrewq0987]

Whats strange is the Turanid countries like Ukraine and south Russia are considered in Europe, yet a pure Caucasoid country like Georgia doesn't qualify. Some people argue that Europe ends at the Rhine, since anything east of that is "Mongrel" land.

Considering how you're a Turk, yeah, I'd think they'd qualify as a "pure Caucasian country" to you but not to me though.

[Fortis in Arduis]

I would not wish the European Union on anyone.

[Liffrea]

Originally Posted by Nomad
Whats strange is the Turanid countries like Ukraine and south Russia are considered in Europe, yet a pure Caucasoid country like Georgia doesn't qualify.

I have yet to a see an argument that wouldn’t class Ukraine and the European parts of Russia in a general definition of Europe.

Of course where Europe “ends” is a debatable point but one that has to be decided on racial and cultural grounds I feel geography only takes us so far. Even then we are talking about a gradual decline of Europeaness (yes I know it isn’t a word).

Some people argue that Europe ends at the Rhine, since anything east of that is "Mongrel" land.

I wouldn’t be inclined to listen to the opinion of anyone who thinks that Europe ends at the Rhine.