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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Lining View Post
    I am surprised anyone has ever doubted that? Well, okay, not surprised, actually.



    Well, I think IIRC (don't nail me down on that) Lundman suspected that Nordics, West-Alpinids and West Mediterranids evolved out of low-skulled Western European "Paleo-Atlantids" (or at least, something similar), as the name says, its basically supposed to be a "remnant race" that you can encounter in isolated, more infertile areas (there they were "pushed" to by the more "modern" races and so they didn't take part in the "depigmentation" of the other parts of NW Europe) that hadn't been touched by modernity until a few decades ago (so regions in Scandinavia, Eastern parts of Britain...). This stuff about blood groups Lundman did was a "cute" way to integrate population genetics into typology (so, basically considering evolution and the "modern synthesis of biology", likewise late Coon tried this), but since all you had was data on (mostly) meaningless stuff like blood groups it wasn't very convinincing and insightful.

    Actually, v.Eickstedt used the term "Atlantid" as a subrace of the Mediterranid race, mostly associated with Celtic areas:



    Other authors like Biasutti, Scheidt and even Lundman (who considered "admixture" as a possible factor, again) considered them to be the dark-haired Nordics and for some reason Lundman renamed them "North-Atlantid" in his scheme, while using "Atlantid" as a large umbrella term for all low-skulled Europid subraces (confusing, I know).





    Yeah, some of them seem to have Nordic or whatever admixture, but notice the upturned-short noses and weak chins in the side profile, pretty much the opposite of the "pretty" chads and girls people are posting here. They remind me in some way of the Sudetian race of Günther, but probably taller and more robust.


    Very hilarious.
    Tydal is the Scandinavian variant and PE Atlantid is the North Atlantic/Baltic/Central Variant. Just like Borreby is the Central/Scandinavian variant of the British Brunn. There is also overlap and spread through migration, other regional variants that aren't distinct enough to classify as a true variant etc. Coon never said anything was 100% true or untrue and all physical anthropologists have opinions, taking ones over the other doesn't make it true or untrue. Like everything in science the truth is in the grey area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Lining View Post


    I knew that v.Eickstedt used the term "Atlantid" but I've never seen any examples from him.

    And here forum's "Atlantid". Look like nothing original.

    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laag View Post
    I knew that v.Eickstedt used the term "Atlantid" but I've never seen any examples from him.

    And here forum's "Atlantid". Look like nothing original.

    Spoiler!
    We all know this example by von Eickstedt. He posted him from his previous account (Silver Lining).
    It's slightly coarser (seems Brunn admixed if we go by Coon's terminology you like) but still has both Mediterranean & Nordic qualities - just like an Atlantid is supposed to do.
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    You can paleo my atlantid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    can I anything NW Euro pretty pls
    You are 100% Faelid and as Romanian your flag looks like the Belgian flag so that makes you the purest Dutchman here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    You are 100% Faelid and as Romanian your flag looks like the Belgian flag so that makes you the purest Dutchman here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    You are 100% Faelid and as Romanian your flag looks like the Belgian flag so that makes you the purest Dutchman here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    We all know this example by von Eickstedt. He posted him from his previous account (Silver Lining).
    It's slightly coarser (seems Brunn admixed if we go by Coon's terminology you like) but still has both Mediterranean & Nordic qualities - just like an Atlantid is supposed to do.
    Now you are starting to get it.

    => Lundman's North Atlantid = Eickstedt's Atlantid = Biasutti's Irish Nordic subtype = Hooton's Keltic = (roughly, because Coon's Brunn race was some kind of blunder on his part) Coon's Brunn/Atlanto-Med.

    v. Eickstedt's Med types:
    - Gracile Med (mostly Iberia, Mediterranean Islands, Southern Italy)
    - Eurafrikanid (coarser, more "Mesolithic"-vibes, here and there around the Mediterranean Sea)
    - Saharid/Transmediterranid (between the two mentioned, mostly North Africa)
    - Berberid (Cromagnon-like, here and there in North Africa and quite prominent on the Canary Islands, but also seen in other areas like Corsica)
    - Atlantid (Nordic-like, but with true dark hair, less refined facial features than true "Teuto"-Nordics, poorer areas of North-Western Europe, usually associated with Celtic areas)

    But he even stated that all of this is just a rough sketch and Med types had not been researched that well, at that point, so he didn't spend much time on them. He was more an expert on India and East Asia.

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