The Story of your enslavement

[RoyBatty]

Watch this, it's about 13 mins long but well worth viewing.

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http://www.tpuc.org/content/story-your-enslavement

[Psychonaut]

I watched the whole thing as can certainly see some obvious truths, but I'm unsure what, aside from "waking up," the presentation proposes we do. It seems to lead in the direction of anarchism, which may have philosophical merits, but is untenable outside of a thought experiment. Is that a correct assessment, or did I miss something?

[RoyBatty]

Hehe, thanks for the comments. I don't think there really is a solution to what imo is essentially an unsolveable problem for the forseeable future. (At least until the occurrence of some Apocalyptic event changes the landscape).

I suspect things could be improved somewhat by

- decentralising governance powers (ie not concentrating too much of it in the hands of a few),
- to get out of political unions with other countries / states,
- to reduce or remove the hold foreign owners have over assets on one's territory,
- to limit the movement of foreigners into one's territories

and so on.

These steps will at least curb the designs of the globalists.

To tackle LOCAL "farmers" / landlords / slaveowners / industrialists from becoming too powerful another set of measures would of course need to be implemented to limit the amount of power or influence they can accumulate.

In any case, these are all hypothetical suggestions. I don't see any realistic way of getting them implemented.

It's worth understanding what's happening to us though, even if we're currently powerless to do much about it. The more awareness there is of this situation the more difficult it will be for the elites to control us and hence the better chance we will have of getting a better deal for ourselves in the process.

[Germanicus]

Having also watched the video in it's entirety i tend to agree with a form of enslavement that has engulfed humans.
For years i have understood this concept, naivity is not one of my weaknesses, only the young, and people who have not had the yoke of responsibility of providing for theirselves and others will not really understand this concept of human farming.
The really clever part of being human is choice, whether we accept our lives as it is or not?

[RoyBatty]

One way to fight back is to not meekly accept authority being handed down. There are different ways to resist. One doesn't necessarily have to scream and shout in the street or throw eggs at the police.

The best and most insidious way to oppose and change a system is to combat it from the inside as opposed to agitating against it from the outside.

I'm not suggesting some kind of "victory" against the bosses since they can't really be defeated. Knock a couple off and new ones will appear to take their place.

Limited resistance though is better than no resistance. Through limited resistance one can at least obtain some concessions from the elites. Through doing nothing they will seize upon this apathy as public weakness and will redouble their efforts and measures to screw us over.

[Germanicus]

As for myself, i have worked hard for my master, enslavement gave me work to which i excelled, my reward has been such that i own my own home, my offspring are healthy, educated, and prosperous too.
The have nots who did not work as hard as they could for their master, and shunned education rattle the cage bars with their bowls.
Enslavement for the hard worker is easier than the slave who moans of freedom?

[RoyBatty]

Germanicus, you was a good free-range house slave.

You worked hard and your master didn't treat you too unfairly. Both profited.

However, this scenario is and has not always been the case. Current slave masters are increasingly trying to extract more profit from their slaves in exchange for fewer concessions.

With the advent of automated systems and technologies more attention is being paid by slave owners, Senates and Emperors to monitor, record and supervise slave movements within their respective open prisons.

[blan]

well it was amazing and very true, tis human nature i see no way of breaking this endless pattern except as individuals we can not as a human race.
seems they are promoting anarchism, it can work on small levels but i dont see the whole human race being able to do such a thing.

[Germanicus]

well it was amazing and very true, tis human nature i see no way of breaking this endless pattern except as individuals we can not as a human race.
seems they are promoting anarchism, it can work on small levels but i dont see the whole human race being able to do such a thing.

Anarchy would destroy this country, removing the chains by rebellion would enslave the workers to starvation as the population would not be able to feed itself, only by coexistence with the masters are we able to survive?

[Agrippa]

The whole clip is based on a series of false assertions, because first and before everythign else, the human species was always a social and cultural species. That way, the social structures developed "naturally" and being always needed by all human beings, it is just about certain elements on which some rely more than others.

The state as such can allow much more freedoms than the traditional society, yet it depends on the state and it depends on the definition of freedoms.

The one sided materialist idea of thinking about freedom just in the sense of "economic system" is even more idiotic to begin with, because such a thing doesn't exist and people always organise themselves in a specific way.

Real "free market Capitalism" never existed and where it was approached wasn't more stable nor significantly more productive necessarily, that's just a myth.

It's like "real Communism", you will never see it because genetic and memetic traditions in all human societies won't allow it.

In the end, one thing is for sure, if you let the forces free, there will be always a group of people stronger than the others, those will control this segmet of society. Now if you let the financial-economic sector be the prime element of your society, those which make it in this sector, will make it in the whole society - voila, you have a state-Capitalist breed, mostly coming from the banking sector.

It will always happen, unless you have a political class which rules out any unbalanced development in society, plans things where there is a need too for the majority of the individuals and the good of the greater whole.

What we have now are developed Capitalist structures, in which those which "made it" began to infiltrate all areas of human culture and traditions, change and engineer them like they want, but that's exactly what you always get, because competition has to lead to the dominance of a few on the long run, unless you have a group of people above them which do interfere in the market and make up rules for the market, because the market and money is just a tool for the people to create goods, wealth and trade the people need to prosper and develop on a higher level.
If you let yourself being ruled by the tool, others will use it against you, which are more clever and less naive, which is a basic problem of most "nicer Libertarians" in the West, which are like Marxists, they missed the point...

Better watch the "Money Masters":
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...9560256183936#

The state or any sort of collective organisation, including business, can only be organised in certain ways, among these:

- Beneficial for the majority of people and the greater whole
- Beneficial to a relative minority and their particular interests
- Beneficial primarily to a very small group of people and their particular interests

No. 2 and 3 are far more common in Capitalist countries, especially if there is no corrective policy. Now we have the late stage of Capitalism, in which there is not less freedom for business, but certain parts of the Capitalist economy - the strongest ones - namely bankers-financial sector, overtook the rest, including the state, which was only possible, because the politicians gave them too much freedoms before.

Because "freedoms" can be abused and if you have a "Judaised" system in which money and profits determine the rest, you will by ruled by those which control the money - the "Money Masters".

To say less state would be the solution is like a doctor saying to a patient which is bleeding to death that only blood-letting can save him. Pure stupidity.

That way you give the Plutocrats the means to make other people their personal slaves again, for not other reason or higher moral obligations, which is why we face a complete Re-Feudalisation of most if not all of mankind through the Anglo-Jewish Plutocratic Oligarchy.

To protect the freedoms of a group of people, those people had always to act collectively, because one by one, it is easy to take them down. Libertarian Individualism raises such "easy to take down" Westerners which oppose the state as a principle, rather than the corruption and manipulation of its institutions. They confuse the state as a mean, like they confuse money and the market as a mean, with the purpose, and the purpose should be the greater good.

Germanicus, you was a good free-range house slave.

You worked hard and your master didn't treat you too unfairly. Both profited.

However, this scenario is and has not always been the case. Current slave masters are increasingly trying to extract more profit from their slaves in exchange for fewer concessions.

With the advent of automated systems and technologies more attention is being paid by slave owners, Senates and Emperors to monitor, record and supervise slave movements within their respective open prisons.

That is also a question of power and how good you indoctrinated your slaves. F.e. now people think of themselves being more free than their ancestors, primarily because of the "individualised construction kit" of ideological and consumption parts, as well as the complete re-education and social engineering of the Liberal and Cultural Marxist kind, culminating in the new Liberalcapitalism of Neoliberalism.

In the past, the Plutocrats already had the power in the Anglo-states, in Great Britain and the USA, but they had to make propaganda for the rest of the world and keeping the domestic population down. They could still think about uncontrollable Communism, National Socialism, other forms of Socialism, Fascism, radical religious movements and the like being a serious threat to their rule, but then, when the Eastern system finally collapsed in the 1990's, they realised that it was over, they won the game, but to a very high price.

So they began with the transformation of the states in both the Western and Eastern world to the new worldwide system they wanted to install, in time and before their Capitalist system might show weaknesses - that they, when the financial-economic cycle reaches its end, they are ready and controll so much of the societies, that they can also control and even (ab-) use the restart.

And of course, in that transformation process, anything like the concessions they made in the past, the time of political-ideological fights, were abolished if they didn't profit from them and thought people would accept it - also because the common people had no collective means - by political movements - or positions in the state which they could use for a revolt anyway...

A perfect system of Capitalist stock breeding indeed, but the reasons are others than those presented in this clip and actually, in another way than the one discussed, humans always domesticated themselves, slaves or not, because we are the social and cultural, self-domesticated species be definition...

Some comments from the video authors forum, which show where such individuals go to, because they spread the truth and absurd lies the same time, like these:

Hitler was friends with many German Jews, there were many Jews in the SS... the Islamic Mufti of Jerusalem was not friends with the Fascists he was trying to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist land thieves from Europe.

Well, he was an ally of National Socialism in any case and obviously he had his own motivation for being one.

This gave me a unique insight as to what they were taught about Adolf Hitler and the 2nd world war. Whilst there I met a GREAT MANY GERMANS that KNEW adolf hitler WAS a Jew, when i first heard this i was perplexed to say the least, and after researching this, i was dumbfounded to see there was more than enough evidence for this to be the case. (Hitler was a Rothschild, ROTSCHILD, Their family crest IS the star of david).

http://www.tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1625

Such people being indoctrinated to such a degree, that they can't see the truth when they get it shown, but have to come up with new lies, from the lies they were told all the time, to get away without having to question their whole life and lifestyle, the "good moral" they were taught but the Capitalists and their menials.

So in the end they come up with a mixture which just doesn't fit into reality, similar to Alex Jones f.e.

They have to blame Hitler or come up with myths, they have to reject the state and a collectivist (Gemeinschaft) point of view, because that are things they don't want to change, so they have to build up fantasies around the truth they are facing, namely the conspiracy of the Plutocratic Oligarchy, which is actually no hidden conspiracy any longer, as they act quite openly and in public for their agenda, it's just that you have to put things into perspective and draw conclusions - obvious conclusions - from the events in the political and economic world.

But the "Alex Jones-spirit" is a problem, because it is just a half-way freedom, if you don't get rid of the rest of the indoctrination.