I Love Real Turks; Real = Muslim

[acatziri]

Those turks (Ottomans etc) were Sunni Muslims following the hanafi madhab.

They adopt the crescent because of its significance in Islam...the hilal is used to determine the new lunar month, and it is important for things like Ramadan. They spat on their pagan origins.

Infact, Persians did not spit on their zoroastrian origins...but Turks historically spat on their tengrist origins. Funny you call yourself 'true ancestor' but dont even know your history.

No, you are not right. All Gök Tengri religion traditions, are now continued in cultural ways. There are many Turk cultural customs, showing that these are equal to the old religion of Turks. In fact, the modern Alevi Bekhtashi and Yesevi Turks are mixing the old Gök Tengri religion traditions with our current Islam religion. The origin of all modern Turks of Türkiye is located in the 13th century AD tribes whom belived in the Alevi sects build on the principles of Khoja Akhmet Yassawi and Haji Bektash Veli.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Actually it's education but not like you say. The education given to the kids at school is almost atheist and secular. Kids are said science says something and religion something else, that's the reason why.

Indeed the schools say science says something in 95% of the curriculum and religions says something else in 5% of the curriculum, and of course only what science says makes sense...

...Now go drink your camel pee!!!

[Petros Houhoulis]

For the last 150-200 years, the materialistic atheist phylosophy dominates the world. The society, the education, the production etc are based on their principles, their dogmas are taught to people like facts. If you tell someone, the science says atheism is right but you can delude yourself with religion, it's normal there will be more and more people who become atheists.

...And you'll get stuck with the camel pee drinkers!

[Petros Houhoulis]

Did they put those symbols to honor in ANY WAY a religion/god other than Islam/Allah? Yes or no. If Yes, you just called the Ottomans (who would lead 'ghzwas/jihads' into anatolia and balkans) Crypto-Tengriists. It is strange the need for such powerful military force to practice a crypto religion, like a persecuted minority no?

Tengrii was just like Waaq/Eebe in Somalia...pre-Islamic name for God that was adopted after Islam, and any remaining customs out of ignorance. Many Somal women went topless as late as the early 1900s, but it wasnt because they were still practicing Cushitic religions.

...It's because cloths were too expensive for them...

[Petros Houhoulis]

Tengri is not just a word mate, it is a connection between us animals and god, what do you think will happen if that is severed?

You'll grow a brain and become Atheists...

[Imam]

Well, biased TA moderators support this savage army of butthurt Turanist and pseudo-atheist Turks. They're allowed to post anything. Nobody deletes their posts or bans them for their incivility and disgusting behavior.
According to the owner of this forum (Loki), they're the best members of this community! Mr. Loki, you're a typical hypocrite and your double standards prove it. Not just you, but all of moderators of this website. You only want more "clicks" and "ads". Truth hurts.

[Alially]

turkey is getting to be more secular
The number is not negligable who is not practising islam during the day

[Infinite]

Well, biased TA moderators support this savage army of butthurt Turanist and pseudo-atheist Turks. They're allowed to post anything. Nobody deletes their posts or bans them for their incivility and disgusting behavior.
According to the owner of this forum (Loki), they're the best members of this community! Mr. Loki, you're a typical hypocrite and your double standards prove it. Not just you, but all of moderators of this website. You only want more "clicks" and "ads". Truth hurts.

[Anatolian Eagle]

They adopt the crescent because of its significance in Islam...the hilal is used to determine the new lunar month, and it is important for things like Ramadan. They spat on their pagan origins.

Star and crescent was way before used than Islam. There are different theories about the origins, as it was used by the Turkic Khaganate before, or that it was adopted from Byzantine Empire. There's also a legendary origin that moon occulting a star reflecting on pools of blood after Battle of Kosovo (1448), forming the current flag. If star and crescent had any role in Islam, it would be used by Arab states at first place, yet they never used it in any era (I'm excluding the Barbary Coast states here for obvious reasons). Simply put, its association with religious symbolism was developed much later, but it was never intended.

Infact, Persians did not spit on their zoroastrian origins...but Turks historically spat on their tengrist origins. Funny you call yourself 'true ancestor' but dont even know your history.

That's totally nonsense. Zoroastrians were persecuted after the Muslim conquest and spread of Islam in Iran. And if you look at the modern countries, it's definitely the other way around. Under the Islamic republic, Zoroastrian values are considered blasphemy in Iran, while there's no such campaign against Tengrianism or its elements in Turkey.

[Anatolian Eagle]

So? That turks incorporate it to islam does not mean they did it to honor their pagan religion. Or else they wouldnt be adopted in countries as non-turkish as Mauritania, Comoros or Pakistan. They call the crescent 'hilal' for a reason and not its turkish word (which i dont know).

Anyways, go tell a Pakistani or a Mauritanian his flag is 'tengrist'...he will spit on you and your tengrism

As Ölüezgi stated, most likely they simply adopted it without the need of questioning its origins. If they would spit on their own flag because of its origins they never questioned, well, it is their problem.