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    'Moorish revival' in southern Spain

    For hundreds of years, North African Muslims ruled southern Spain. Now some of their descendants are contributing to a "Moorish revival" that is regenerating parts of Andalucia, says the BBC's Sylvia Smith.



    Granada's Calderia Nueva resembles a North African souk

    Sitting in Abdul Hedi Benattia's tea shop you forget for a moment where you are.

    The sound of sweet mint tea being poured into tiny glasses, the murmur of Arabic in the background, and piles of almond cornes de gazelle, served to customers sitting on low sofas, all suggest Morocco or Tunisia.

    But step outside the shop and walk a few metres downhill and you are in Granada, Spain.

    This teteria, or tea shop, is just one of dozens that festoon the historic area and have come to symbolise a significant change in the culture and economics of an important part of the city.

    It was the opening of a tea shop alongside the city's first neighbourhood mosque that ignited the North African renaissance in Granada, according to Said Ekhlouf from Tetouan in northern Morocco.

    He and his fellow shop owners took over empty properties, breathing fresh life into a previously run-down area.

    "Before we set up shop, few people dared walk down this street, especially in the evening," he explains.

    "Everything was boarded up and the only people you'd meet were junkies and prostitutes. But we have turned this street into one of the most popular."

    Modern culture

    The transformation is eye-catching. Dozens of brightly coloured, open-fronted stalls sell all kinds of Moroccan and Tunisian handicrafts, and the only music you will hear is Arabic, interspersed with the call to prayer.

    Taking advantage of low property prices, the first arrivals in the 1980s colonised the Calderia Nueva and began, unwittingly, to introduce a modern version of Islamic Andalucian culture.

    Abdul Hedi Benattia, who is a Tunisian historian as well as owning a restaurant and tea shop, claims that Islam as practised in Granada is very close to the original tolerant religion that spread across North Africa and through most of the Iberian peninsula from the 7th Century until the 14th Century.

    "We accept our Christian neighbours and respect their traditions," he says. "We didn't set out specifically to recreate peaceful co-existence, but at times you can't help but reflect that this is exactly what has happened".



    Melanie Saldanha and Rupal Lad love the atmosphere - and the shopping

    An occasional imam in the neighbourhood mosque, Abdul Hedi meets many of the thousands of European Muslims who come on holiday to enjoy not only the Alhambra, one of Spain's most famous landmarks, but the large, new mosque built in 2002 with funding from the Emirate of Sharjah.

    Overlooking the Alhambra - the palace complex built by the Muslim rulers of southern Spain in the 14th Century - this impressive mosque is at the heart of the 15,000-strong Muslim community which has made Granada its home.

    Twenty years ago there were a mere 2,000 Muslims in the city - and most of them were Spanish converts.

    Some of the more conservative native Spaniards demonstrate an uncompromising attitude to their neighbours.

    "We defeated the Moors and sent them packing a long time ago," says Dolores Ramirez, an office cleaner.

    "We don't mind them being here, so long as they behave themselves. But they are not in charge. This is a Spanish town."

    Not that the North Africans seem to want to be in charge. They are content to see their businesses grow and to demonstrate that the Muslim population is a steadying and unifying force.

    'Unique atmosphere'

    Abdul Hedi admits that he uses the Andalucian style when decorating. "We have our tables and chairs made up in North Africa and we are keen to be seen as part of a continuing historical line of Muslims who never really left Spain."

    The rise in property prices has been steep in the historical area, thanks to tasteful renovations, and some of the local Spaniards resent not being able to afford to buy.

    But many others admit that the improvement is startling, and that they also benefit from increased visitor numbers.

    "The Alhambra is the most popular visitor attraction in Spain," says Laila, a local Spanish convert who is married to a property manager from Tangier.

    "But that has a lot to do with the same unique atmosphere lingering in the streets around here. It's as if that historical period is still alive and well."

    British-Indian tourists Rupal Lad and Melanie Saldanha say they find the Arabic culture and colours alluring - and "love the shopping".

    "We've made a couple of friends who work in one of the shops here and they were kind enough to ask us to join them for a drink yesterday and it was just very nice, relaxed. We felt completely in good hands," Ms Saldanha says.

    And for the locals, as well as the tourists, some of the practical advantages of having a Muslim community on your doorstep are felt particularly strongly on a Sunday morning.

    After the excesses of Saturday night, the Calderia Nueva is full of young Spaniards sipping mint tea.

    Among them is Jose Martinez, a university student.

    "North African culture is really cool and we are simply accepted here. There are no questions asked and you can just chill out," he says.

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    ... Islam as practised in Granada is very close to the original tolerant religion that spread across North Africa and through most of the Iberian peninsula from the 7th Century until the 14th Century.
    I wonder if the guy who said that was actually serious?
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    This is the fuckin multiculturalist propaganda by the leftist goverment. The moors didn't have any impact on southern Spain , it's has all been exalted by traitors. Now, it's time again, and we'll kick out all this scum later or soon...

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    I suspect he was being serious.

    Depending on location and time / date Islam, Christianity and Judaism co-existed without much problems. Imo the religions themselves aren't necessarily at fault or at the root of friction and tensions.

    Imo problems more often arise when corrupt individuals start perverting the respective teachings and stoke up trouble for personal gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    I suspect he was being serious.

    Depending on location and time / date Islam, Christianity and Judaism co-existed without much problems. Imo the religions themselves aren't necessarily at fault or at the root of friction and tensions.

    Imo problems more often arise when corrupt individuals start perverting the respective teachings and stoke up trouble for personal gain.
    That's wrong. They did never coexist in pace. There were always fights and friction. Don't believe in the do-gooder liberals. Read the book "The Myth of Al-Andalus"

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    I dunno about particular conditions in Spain.

    I was speaking in more general terms. Cases vary depending on the part of the world, dates etc. Religious "tolerance" isn't an impossible, unachievable condition but like I said, it depends.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    For hundreds of years, North African Muslims ruled southern Spain. Now some of their descendants are contributing to a "Moorish revival" that is regenerating parts of Andalucia, says the BBC's Sylvia Smith
    You'd think immigrants never did anything else. Fucking BBC...
    He and his fellow shop owners took over empty properties, breathing fresh life into a previously run-down area.
    God bless em...
    If only some real effort were put into figuring out WHY these muslims are better businessmen, and realising that they abuse the system for all they're worth, fiddling the books with immunity and shifting money around through all sorts of informal channels in a way that would get natives sent to prison...
    The transformation is eye-catching. Dozens of brightly coloured, open-fronted stalls sell all kinds of Moroccan and Tunisian handicrafts, and the only music you will hear is Arabic, interspersed with the call to prayer.
    Gaudy tat, cheap rubbish, antisocial racket. Yep, the Moors are back.
    "We defeated the Moors and sent them packing a long time ago," says Dolores Ramirez, an office cleaner.

    They are content to see their businesses grow and to demonstrate that the Muslim population is a steadying and unifying force.
    THe gall of these journos... THey 'unify' what and how!??!
    Abdul Hedi admits that he uses the Andalucian style when decorating. "We have our tables and chairs made up in North Africa
    So in fact, there's NOTHING local here. Just imported culture. There was a Spain and there was a Maghreb. Hooray, in future there'll just be TWO Maghrebs... Diversity!
    (We will overlook the fact that this is the Kingdom of Granada, and not Andalucia strictly speaking )
    British-Indian tourists Rupal Lad and Melanie Saldanha say they find the Arabic culture and colours alluring - and "love the shopping".
    Great, they can fuck off to Arabia once we decide to get rid of em.
    Among them is Jose Martinez, a university student.

    "North African culture is really cool and we are simply accepted here. There are no questions asked and you can just chill out," he says.
    Wow, what a privilege! To be accepted in your own bleeding country... Let's see how long before this all turns ugly.

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    A period of religious tolerance was it not, true. There was coexistence, but full of as many tensions as there are nowadays in many places of the world.

    But the impact on southern Spain can't be denied. It shouldn't be exaggerated as some like to do, but it can't be denied. If there's one place in Iberia where they really were for hundreds of years, that was the South.
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    I must confess I feel a strange (and maybe insane cause is not entirely painful) sensation that could be called "ancestral or collective or historical memory" (maybe I should read Jung) when I see Moors (especially bearing chilabas or long bears) tumbling down our streets. What I suffer more is the melting-pot, all races mixed up, ones traffiquing drugs, others as shitty merchants, others disturbing with awful alien musics from hell, others stealing and treating with disrespect our elders, etc...this is what really got into my nerves.

    Ps. One day at my local hipermarket I saw a tall Moorish woman with a full-bodied pinkish tunic and Arab shoes really classy and exotical...Mediterranean race, of course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibex View Post
    A period of religious tolerance was it not, true. There was coexistence, but full of as many tensions as there are nowadays in many places of the world.
    Two absolute, mutually exclusive 'Truths' in one place = trouble.
    But the impact on southern Spain can't be denied. It shouldn't be exaggerated as some like to do, but it can't be denied. If there's one place in Iberia where they really were for hundreds of years, that was the South.
    Any examples of the impact?

    Castles, palaces... I know that. Some vocabulary. But is there much else, really? Does it show in traditions or superstitions or what?
    Last edited by Osweo; 07-22-2010 at 11:17 PM.

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