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    Grainne Close and Shannon Sickles were the first couple in the UK to celebrate a civil partnership in 2005

    Two gay couples have taken the first step in a legal challenge to the ban on same-sex marriage in Northern Ireland.

    The High Court granted permission for Grainne Close, her partner Shannon Sickles, and Chris and Henry Flanagan-Kane to seek a judicial review.

    Ten years ago in Belfast, they became the first same-sex couples in the UK to enter into civil partnerships.

    However Northern Ireland is now the only place in the UK and Ireland that has not legalised same-sex marriage.

    The Northern Ireland Assembly has debated the issue four times and rejected it each time.


    Christopher and Henry Flanaghan Kane are also seeking to challenge Northern Ireland's gay marriage ban

    At the High Court in Belfast on Friday, a barrister for Stormont's Department of Finance and Personnel (DFP) argued that a similar case is currently going through the Family Division.

    It involves a gay couple who want their marriage in England to be legally recognised in Northern Ireland.

    But a lawyer representing Ms Close and the others involved in the judicial review case, said she was seeking to have the legislation completely struck down.

    The challenge is based on claims that the ban discriminates against gay and lesbian couples.

    The judge ruled that their case had enough merit to proceed to a full hearing, based on submissions already before him.

    He said: "Rather than waste everybody's time by pretending otherwise, I propose to grant leave which means the applicant has an arguable case."

    The case is due back again before the courts in September.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-33285452

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    Maybe the law against murder could be challenged on the grounds that it discriminates against violent individuals.

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    Gay marriage and abortion (even in the cases of rape and spina bifida fetuses) are banned and illegal in Northern Ireland due to the strict ruling of the Protestant DUP party over NI. They're religious fanatics who are against people working on Sundays and are against the teaching of science and evolution in schools. They're a right wing and socially conservative party who've formed an alliance UK coalition government with the British Tories.

    They're Eurosceptics though and support UK independence from the EU.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Unionist_Party
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neon Knight View Post
    Maybe the law against murder could be challenged on the grounds that it discriminates against violent individuals.

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    A high court judge ruled it is legal to not recognise gay and lesbian marriages in Northern Ireland: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a7898531.html

    This contrasts very differently to the Irish people in the mostly Catholic Republic of Ireland.

    Attitudes in Ireland towards lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people are regarded as among the most liberal in the world.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_r...lic_of_Ireland
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♥ Lily ♥ View Post
    Gay marriage and abortion (even in the cases of rape and spina bifida fetuses) are banned and illegal in Northern Ireland due to the strict ruling of the Protestant DUP party over NI. They're religious fanatics who are against people working on Sundays and are against the teaching of science and evolution in schools. They're a right wing and socially conservative party who've formed an alliance UK coalition government with the British Tories.

    They're Eurosceptics though and support UK independence from the EU.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Unionist_Party
    I am no fan of Prots but they are spot on on those key issues !



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I am no fan of Prots but they are spot on on those key issues !
    They're the less Globohomo compliant Ireland, we can thank the plantations for that and they've practically been disowned by their Scottish Calvinist forebears on those grounds or "muh Ian Paisley" depending on who you ask. Catholics are barely putting up a fight against it in Ireland, I fear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billErobreren View Post
    They're the less Globohomo compliant Ireland, we can thank the plantations for that and they've practically been disowned by their Scottish Calvinist forebears on those grounds or "muh Ian Paisley" depending on who you ask. Catholics are barely putting up a fight against it in Ireland, I fear.
    And I don't understand this at all. Less than 20 years ago, the Irish Catholics were freaking hardcore. I wonder what happened ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    And I don't understand this at all. Less than 20 years ago, the Irish Catholics were freaking hardcore. I wonder what happened ?
    As a rule, people tend to become more liberal/leftist with improvement of life standards + pro-liberalism education + consummer mass culture. Ireland still had a lot of people born in the eighties or even seventies and sixties 20 years ago. Most young Irish (18-30 years) nowadays were born in the 90s and 2000s.

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