Saladin, "Salahaddin Yusuf ibn Ayyub" and the "Ayyubid Dynasty" is of Turk Ethnic Origin

[Böri]

Like I said, beacuse his mother was Turkish. In the palace of Eyyubids they were also speak Turkish. But that doesn't mean he is Turk or Turk originated. It is generally accepted that Saladin was from a Kurdified Yemeni Arab clan.

It was Arabian state as matter of ethnics. Also his mother irrelevant and nothing to be proud for Turks. He was a traitor and hated Nureddin Zengi, he was weak and beggar against Crusaders and hateful against Seljuks of Rum even marrying Zengi's 60 y o widowed wife after death of Nureddin as a revenge method. Here Mısıroğlu compares him with Kemal Pasha and stops myth about Saladin as hero

[acatziri]

Like I said, beacuse his mother was Turkish. In the palace of Eyyubids they were also speak Turkish. But that doesn't mean he is Turk or Turk originated. It is generally accepted that Saladin was from a Kurdified Yemeni Arab clan.

The origin, homeland of the Ayyubid family is from the Divin region located in Azerbaijan.

K- Ancient geographer İbn'ül A'sam'ül - Kufi(9th - 10th century AD), had travelled the "Aran" region at 926 AD, and have written that the Language spoken in Aran was the Khazarian Turkish Language.

926 AD is before the Ayyubids and the Seljukids became allies. 926 AD is also before the birth of Selahaddin Eyyubi, Necmeddin Eyyubi(father) and Şadi(grandfather). This is the period of when the ancestors of Selahaddin Eyyubi lived. The direct ancestors of Selahaddin Eyyubi spoke a Khazarian Turkish Language.

[acatziri]

It was Arabian state as matter of ethnics. Also his mother irrelevant and nothing to be proud for Turks. He was a traitor and hated Nureddin Zengi, he was weak and beggar against Crusaders and hateful against Seljuks of Rum even marrying Zengi's 60 y o widowed wife after death of Nureddin as a revenge method. Here Mısıroğlu compares him with Kemal Pasha and stops myth about Saladin as hero

This is a quote from the CIA agent traitor ignorant Kadir Mısıroğlu:

"Lozan'ı yırtıp atmadıkça, aydınlık Türkiye'nin şafağı sökmeyecektir"
"If we do not tear down the Agreement of Lausanne, we can not break down Türkiye"

What is the Agreement of Lausanne? The Turks defeated the British and their puppets during the Turk War of Independence, and after this the British and their puppets ran away like pussies from our country. The British were forced to sign the Agreement of Lausanne, in which the dictations of Atatürk were accepted by the British officials. The Agreement of Lausanne was the victory of the Turks against the British, the Agreement of Lausanne caused for the fully independency of the Turks and Türkiye.

Ignorant Kadir Mısıroğlu hate Atatürk because they preferred to live as slaves under the British, in stead of living independent like the Turks lived in the complete Noble Turk History. These kind of people are traitors and believe in the Fake Umayyad religion.

Another quote of Kadir Mısıroğlu:

"Mustafa Kemal'i sevmeye mecbur muyum?"
"Do i have to love Atatürk?"

Kadir Mısıroğlu is a simple CIA agent working together with the Modern Christian Crusaders(US, UK)(Former president of US, admitted that they were the Modern Christian Crusaders), to divide the Independent State of Türkiye. Yes, the Seljukids, Mamluks, Tolunids and the Ayyubids are all HEROIC Turk dynasties whom defeated the Christian Crusaders who wanted to destroy and commit a genocide to all Muslims. My Noble Father Mustafa Kemal Atatürk and the Noble Turk Nation did the same thing, we saved the existance of Muslims. Turk hating traitors like Kadir Mısıroğlu can keep working as agent provocators for enemy states, we Atatürkist Turk Nationalists will die for the Independence of Türkiye, do not worry about it.

[jackrussell]

Like I said, beacuse his mother was Turkish. In the palace of Eyyubids they were also speak Turkish. But that doesn't mean he is Turk or Turk originated. It is generally accepted that Saladin was from a Kurdified Yemeni Arab clan.

He is half Turkish due to his mum being Turkish you say , which i agree with . Then you go on to say "But that doesn't mean he is Turk or Turk originated".
Well he WAS born to a Turkish mother , imho , that would qualify as " Turk Originated" . As mothers bring kids up by themselves in Arab Culture of the time , well , he was born tu Turkish woman and brought up by a Turkish woman.

As for his father being a non Turk , thats ok too .

Maybe his father was of Arab / Kurd mixture ; that would explain it all .

Thank you for keeping it real btw.

[jackrussell]

Uzulerek belirtmeliyim , Kadir Misiroglu'nun asilli , asilsiz tum suclamalari tartisilmalidir .

Kendisi Ingilizlerden insanlik gordugunu , Almanlarin ise aptal ve hayvan gibi oldugunu soyler .

Kadir Misiroglu elbette Seriat istemektedir ama millet istememektedir Seriat sistemini .

Konu derin , basli basina bir tartisma konusu .

[Pennywise]

He is half Turkish due to his mum being Turkish you say , which i agree with . Then you go on to say "But that doesn't mean he is Turk or Turk originated".
Well he WAS born to a Turkish mother , imho , that would qualify as " Turk Originated" . As mothers bring kids up by themselves in Arab Culture of the time , well , he was born tu Turkish woman and brought up by a Turkish woman.

As for his father being a non Turk , thats ok too .

Maybe his father was of Arab / Kurd mixture ; that would explain it all .

Thank you for keeping it real btw.

Kanuni'nin de annesi Rus. Tıpkı birçok Osmanlı padişahı gibi. Kanuni'yi ya da Osmalı'yı sahiplenen/övünen Rus gördün mü? Aynı hesapla "Osmanlı'yı Arnavutlar yönetti, Osmanlı Arnavut imparatorluğuydu" diyen Arnavutlar da haklı. Hanedan evliliklerinde çok ulusluluk normal, bundan bir şey çıkartamayız.

[Pennywise]

It was Arabian state as matter of ethnics. Also his mother irrelevant and nothing to be proud for Turks. He was a traitor and hated Nureddin Zengi, he was weak and beggar against Crusaders and hateful against Seljuks of Rum even marrying Zengi's 60 y o widowed wife after death of Nureddin as a revenge method. Here Mısıroğlu compares him with Kemal Pasha and stops myth about Saladin as hero

Mısıroğlu manyağın teki dostum. Selahaddin ile övünülür, övünülmez o tartışılır ama bunu Mısıroğlunun sözleri üzerine yapman sağlıksız bir davranış. Eyyübi tarihini güvenilir tarihçilerden ve sağlam kaynaklardan dinlemek lazım.

[jackrussell]

Kanuni'nin de annesi Rus. Tıpkı birçok Osmanlı padişahı gibi. Kanuni'yi ya da Osmalı'yı sahiplenen/övünen Rus gördün mü? Aynı hesapla "Osmanlı'yı Arnavutlar yönetti, Osmanlı Arnavut imparatorluğuydu" diyen Arnavutlar da haklı. Hanedan evliliklerinde çok ulusluluk normal, bundan bir şey çıkartamayız.

Bildigim kadariyla Ukrayna'da bir takim hatunlar pek gurur duyarlarmis Hurrem Sultan'dan.


Bahse girerim eger Hurrem Ortodoks Hristiyan olsaydi ; heykelleri st petersburg meydaninda sergilenirdi.

Osmanli'da bir suru azinlik millet devlet yonetiminde elbette is buldular ; Osmanli'yi basarili kilanda birazcik bu taktik idi .

Selahaddin'i sahiplenmek baska mevzu , en az yari Turk olup olmadigini tartismak daha baska bir mevzu bana kalirsa.

[Pennywise]

Bildigim kadariyla Ukrayna'da bir takim hatunlar pek gurur duyarlarmis Hurrem Sultan'dan.


Bahse girerim eger Hurrem Ortodoks Hristiyan olsaydi ; heykelleri st petersburg meydaninda sergilenirdi.

Osmanli'da bir suru azinlik millet devlet yonetiminde elbette is buldular ; Osmanli'yi basarili kilanda birazcik bu taktik idi .

Selahaddin'i sahiplenmek baska mevzu , en az yari Turk olup olmadigini tartismak daha baska bir mevzu bana kalirsa.

Olabilirdi tabi, Ukrayna'da övüneni de vardır ama bu toplulukların Osmanlı üzerinde ne kadar hakkı var? Bunu tartışmak lazım. Eğer biz Selahaddin'in annesinin Türklüğünden kendimize herhangi bir şekilde pay çıkartabiliyorsak, o zaman bizim tarihimizden de herkes kendine pay çıkartabilir. Tabii böyle olduğunda "bizim" olmaktan çıkar o ayrı.

[jackrussell]

Olabilirdi tabi, Ukrayna'da övüneni de vardır ama bu toplulukların Osmanlı üzerinde ne kadar hakkı var? Bunu tartışmak lazım. Eğer biz Selahaddin'in annesinin Türklüğünden kendimize herhangi bir şekilde pay çıkartabiliyorsak, o zaman bizim tarihimizden de herkes kendine pay çıkartabilir. Tabii böyle olduğunda "bizim" olmaktan çıkar o ayrı.

Ukraynali HUrrem'in Osmanli toplumu uzerinde ki etkisi malum , gucluydu . Eh , Ukraynali hatunlar yada Sirplar oveneceklerse ovunsunler . Cok ovunurlerse guler gecerim yani ; Osmanli'yi sadece hatun kisiler Osmanli yapmadi ki .

Osmanl mirasi uzerinde bazilarinin psikolojik haklari bulunabilir kendilerince , bulumasi da beni o kadar rahatsiz etmez isin aslinda . Ben karsimdakinin yaptiklari ile degerlendirilmesi taraftariyim ama herkes benimle ayni goruste degil , olmayabilir .


Sonucta dedigin gibi bunu tartismak lazim .

Paylasmanin bizim mulkiyetimize bir zarar verdigini dusunmuyorum cunku tarihsel ve kulturel miraslar aslinda paylasilinca daha degerli ve daha mukemmel oluyorlar.

Sonucta Osmanliyi olusturan 34 milletin hepsinin ortak bir paydasi olan Osmanlilik denilen bir gercek var ve bu gercek bu milletlerin orf , adet , tarz ve folklorlerinde bariz bir sekilde gozlemlenilebilir .

Selahaddin Eyyubi Turk olsa da olmasa da o kadar farketmez ; Aslinda Osmanli gibi o da Haclilar ile savasmistir .