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    Because of Russian Empire and USSR. A lot of ethnic ukrainians speak russian as well.

    I don't see this as a problem to be honest

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    Quote Originally Posted by glasses View Post
    You twist meaning of his words. Belarussian language suits only everyday simple talks. You can't discuss any serious matter in simple underdeveloped language. Btw any serious conversion in current Ukraine is held in russian as well. Ukrainian fits only simple talks and short speeches for masses. So he is absolutely right.
    And you exageration sound like propagand.
    How Belarussians achieve to get a "belarussian literature since the 16 centuries without a proper language. Belarusian literature

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    Quote Originally Posted by here View Post
    why Ukrainians speak Russian? for us (Carpathian Ukrainians not subjected to Sovietization) Ukrainian from Ukraine sounds very Russified in pronouncing and in the very many borrowings from Russian. we Ukrainians in Romania are among the last speakers of (old, real) Ukrainian. Ukrainians from Ukraine speak Ukrainian with a very Russian accent, but they don't notice it. they are just too used to hearing and speaking Russian. I have nothing against it, I am a bit of a russophile myself. but the people around Russians are usually very attracted to Russian stuff (language, music, film...) and in former Soviet republics many non-Russians still maintain by own will a Russian cultural atmosphere (like in Moldova)
    So you are Rusin? We have lots of those ppl in Serbia as well. A very nice ppl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanyok View Post
    Belarussians were part of Russian ethnity 100 years ago, untill the bolsheviks in order to make the revolution more international proclaimed new republics. So the Belorussia was decided to be a separate nation (decided from Kremlin). They needed their language. The newly born belarussian language was a get-together of different village dialects with no established norm. (Unlikely, russian as a long-time state language with rich literary tradition had established norms) The linguist invented rules and norms of new language, but it was still artificial. Villages continued to use their dialects, while in towns and cities people were to use russian as the most comprehensible.
    Something similiar took place in Ukraine. And, although russian is not a state language in Ukraine, ukranian language is more developed then belarussian, the ukrainian language is so far from science, that ukrainian nuclear power plants have only russian as working language.
    Rubbish.
    It was not part of the Russian ethnicity 100 years ago and it was never part of the Russian ethnicity. There were 3 invented ethnicities by Tsarists after partition of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (1795): Great Russians (Velikorossy), Small Russians (Malorossy, later Ukrainians) and Belarusians. Take a look at the census in 1897 , how people identified themselves or the works of ethnographers of the 18th century. Two revolutions in the 18 th centuries on the territories of Belarus against Tsarist rule and forced of conversion of Greek Catholic to Orthodoxy of the population and banning of schools in native language for Ukrainians, Belarusians and Lithuanians. One cannot invent the language. Modern literary Belarusian was codified based on central Belarusian dialects spoken in the area between Minsk and Vilnius. Older Ruthenian was a literary language on territories of Belarus in which state documents were written. Many literary European languages were codified during late 19th century. Many separate regions of former empires announced the independence based on ethnographic and linguistic differences after WWI when 3 empires (Austro-Hungarian, Russian and Prussian) were broken. Belarusian language is as developed as Ukrainian . Belarusian has not been enforced in Belarus as Ukrainian was enforced in Ukraine in the last 25 years. That's the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean le bon View Post
    And you exageration sound like propagand.
    How Belarussians achieve to get a "belarussian literature since the 16 centuries without a proper language. Belarusian literature
    And it's a propaganda based on backward mentality of the Russians that existed to justify the territorial expansion. The propaganda was also directed at Ukrainians for a long time until Ukrainians told them to get lost. I can see this is happening in Belarus , soon after Lukashenka's regime disappears. The nationalist movement were strong in early 90s before Lukashenka's regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean le bon View Post
    And you exageration sound like propagand.
    language is a tool, tools called ukrainian, belarussian, mordvin etc languages are simply bad. IT has nothing to do with propagnda. That is a fact. People choose to use better language. Villager whose vocubalary containts 100-150 words can be perfectly fine with ukrainian, belarussian or papuan language. If your life slightly more complicated, you would need slightly more complicated language. Thus even russophobic ukrainians speak russian language in private dicussions, chechen tell how they hate russians in russian language as well. All those muslims from former SU in ISIL communicate with each other in russian. And so on.
    Lukashenko is just less retarded than those ukro-patriots. He is not playing anti-russian card either. so there is no reason to 'develop' belarussian language. This forum can be english pseaking, but can not be papuan speaking, because papuan language is not suitable for complicated conversation. Same way all those ukrainian, belarussian, tatar, latvian, estonian and so on languages are just bad for usage in modern world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glasses View Post
    That is a fact.
    A fact because you say so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ołówek View Post
    A fact because you say so?
    Everywhere in the world, people choose more developed language over some exotic 'native' languages. That is fact. In Belarus authorities do not impose exotic language, so people prefer russian language because they are more comfortable with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ołówek View Post
    A fact because you say so?
    Russification is the reason Ukrainians and Belarusians and many other ethnicities speak in Russian
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification

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    repeat.
    Last edited by Rugevit; 08-06-2015 at 09:16 AM.

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