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Thread: How did Y-DNA haplogroup Q enter Scandinavia?

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    Default How did Y-DNA haplogroup Q enter Scandinavia?

    From wikipedia:
    The frequency of haplogroup Q in Norway is about 4%

    It's absent in the Finnish and Sámi populations.

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    Old, archaic Eurasian marker - predates the Mongoloid race.

    Or influx of later, probably even partially Mongoloid newcomers, from the steppe-East or Greenland-Inuits.

    Just two options

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallantides View Post
    From wikipedia:



    It's absent in the Finnish and Sámi populations.
    According to Eupedia, Norway has 0.5% of Q which is average European. Ukraine has 5 % : http://www.eupedia.com/europe/europe...logroups.shtml

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    I think Eupedia is wrong here, Norway's Q frequency is estimated around 4%

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_Q_(Y-DNA)
    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....il/haplo_q.htm



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    I think it came the same place from where R1A came in there,

    And Ucraine makes perfect sence, since it the motherland of the so-called Asi.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans
    The Alans were also known over the course of their history by another group of related names including the variations Asi, As, and Os (Hungarian Jász, Russian Jasy, Georgian Osi). It is this name that is the root of the modern Ossetian.[7]


    The Asi - bulgarians and Ossetians, who used the word АЗ( AZ) for "I", made an early invasion of Skandinavia during the early ages.

    Of course later they moved, and were known as Kimbri(Kimerians) - the people who builded Toulose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallantides View Post
    I think Eupedia is wrong here, Norway's Q frequency is estimated around 4%

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_Q_(Y-DNA)
    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....il/haplo_q.htm


    Never trust Wikipedia in genetics, it's very manipulated.

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    I think Paul Johnsen, a Norwegian guy at forumbiodiversity mentioned a Norwegian source that estimated it at 4-5%,wikipedia don't cite any sources though, neither does Eupedia for their 0.5% in Norway.

    But imo 4% seems more correct than 0.5%

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    It's been there a long time. One half of the P-derived, R & Q brotherhood.

    http://rokus01.wordpress.com/2010/03...od-of-mankind/
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    http://www.davidkfaux.org/CentralAsi...NAEvidence.pdf

    The present study emerged out of a single observation. Genetic Y chromosome DNA
    testing revealed that the author’s uncleWilliamson (and thus his maternal grandfather), whose roots in the male line lie in the Shetland Islands, had an unusual pattern of matches to the 12 “scores” (markers). The largest number of close matches to this rare haplogroup R1a1 (more on this genetic grouping later) Norse signature from Shetland were not seen in large and diverse European samples in which R1a1 predominates (e.g., Poland), but among the tribal Siberian Altai of Central Asia (33 closematches out of the sample of 46 who had a Haplogroup R1a1 DNA signature). While this could simply be an anomaly, the data emerging out of the Shetland Islands Y-DNA Surname Project began to paint a picture of an Asian presence within the Norse population. All other R1a1 participants with aboriginal surnames (e.g., Robertson, Mathewson) also had the same match profile as the above Williamson. Over time, and as the sample size increased, other rare haplogroups, seen but rarely anywhere in Europe emerged. These included Q (seen almost exclusively in Asia and North America), and K (found in Asia and the Middle East) came to light. These three particular DNA signature patterns were also seen in recently published samples of Norway, Iceland, and the Faroe Islands (the latter two being founded, as was
    Shetland, as Norse colonies).

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    Is it possible that the Vikings may have brought slaves back from the new world,(Greenland or Vinland) bearing this haplogroup Q?

    Perhaps some of these slaves, if there were any, managed to enter the Scandinavian gene pool.
    Last edited by Bloodeagle; 08-12-2010 at 04:22 PM.

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