The darkness of southern French is VASTLY overestimated here.

[Sikeliot]

No, the average southern French does not look Italian, especially not southern Italian, and such types are uncommon. Even the southern French have a lot of Nordic influenced types, Atlantids, etc. that collectively make them not look like a Southern European population.

Although the difference is smaller, they do not even look identical to Iberians. Most southern French pass better in Germany or Britain than in Sicily or Crete, and we greatly overestimate their darkness. Moreover, genetically they are less than half Mediterranean, and are closer to Central Europe than any true southern European population.

[Mortimer]

Dylan is quiete dark though and Desaix is not light either they are both french

[Sikeliot]

Dylan is quiete dark though and Desaix is not light either they are both french

their looks are not typical... Valmont is a typical southern French and he passes far better in Germany than in Italy, Iberia or Greece.

[Carignan]

Dylan is quiete dark though and Desaix is not light either they are both french

Dylan is Half French-Canadian and Desaix is like 1% French

[Sikeliot]

Dylan is Half French-Canadian and Desaix is like 1% French

Actually you are right. Dylan is 1/4 Italian also. His father moreover is atypical for France, as we all pointed out in his classification thread.

[Mortimer]

Petalpusher is dark too (ok he has blue eyes but black hair and light olive skin)

[Sikeliot]

I don't just mean darkness. People overestimate the extent to which they pass as common Southern Europeans. Their features do not look southern.

[themrdude1990]

I spend a week in vacation in the southern france which is basically next to the spanish border
after spending a few days there I went to barcelona
I saw a noticible difference between spaniards and french
not as I expected there wasn't a huge overlap

[Sikeliot]

I spend a week in vacation in the southern france which is basically next to the spanish border
after spending a few days there I went to barcelona
I saw a noticible difference between spaniards and french
not as I expected there wasn't a huge overlap

Do you agree with me that the southern French do not look like Southern Europeans as a whole? Tooting Carmen was arguing more people in southern France can pass in far southern Europe than Assyrians who can and I really, really disagree.

[themrdude1990]

Do you agree with me that the southern French do not look like Southern Europeans as a whole? Tooting Carmen was arguing more people in southern France can pass in far southern Europe than Assyrians who can and I really, really disagree.

Id say french are closer to central europeans with more western influence rather than south european