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    Default Marxist liberals attempt to discredit Heidegger as a philospher

    Marxist liberals attempt to discredit Heidegger as a philospher


    "Drawing on new evidence, the author, Emmanuel Faye, argues fascist and racist ideas are so woven into the fabric of Heidegger’s theories that they no longer deserve to be called philosophy....

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    Libraries, too, should stop classifying Heidegger’s collected works (which have been sanitized and abridged by his family) as philosophy and instead include them under the history of Nazism. These measures would function as a warning label, like a skull-and-crossbones on a bottle of poison, to prevent the careless spread of his most odious ideas, which Mr. Faye lists as the exaltation of the state over the individual, the impossibility of morality, anti-humanism and racial purity...

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    Without understanding the soil in which Heidegger’s philosophy is rooted, Mr. Faye argues, people may not realize that his ideas can grow in troubling directions. Heidegger’s dictum to be authentic and free oneself from conventional restraints, for example, can lead to a rejection of morality. The denunciation of reason and soulless modernism can devolve into crude anti-intellectualism and the glorification of “blood and soil.”...

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    After all, the classic American position on how liberal societies should treat dangerous ideas is worth more discussion.

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    If so, then we should put the works of culteral-Marxists and other Marxist thinkers under the history of communism section to serve as warning label to prevent the careless spread of their most odious ideas.

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    1. Who says philosophers can't take a non-Marxist position on race?

    2. Who says Nazism is necessarily incompatible with philosophy?

    3. Anyone who finds either Nazism or racism in Sein unt Zeit is clearly an idiot.

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    Default "That is precisely what Mr. Faye says he wants."

    Originally Posted by PATRICIA COHEN
    In his view teaching Heidegger’s ideas without disclosing his deep Nazi sympathies
    is like showing a child a brilliant fireworks display
    without warning that an ignited rocket can also blow up in someone’s face.


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    I wonder what he would say about Aristotle or Plato? Their ideas on ethics and politics would have lefties and other socialist types shitting teeth. Ban them? More people died in the name of Marxism than did National Socialism.

    Let the man write, more people will probably go out and buy Heidegger’s books, I’m reading an introduction to Heidegger I’m so far quite taken.
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    Indeed it might be a basic characteristic of existence that those who would know it completely would perish, in which case the strength of a spirit should be measured according to how much of the “truth” one could still barely endure-or to put it more clearly, to what degree one would require it to be thinned down, shrouded, sweetened, blunted, falsified.
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    Marxism and liberalism (both the European and American versions) are incompatible philosophies so I am wary of any writing that conflates them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loddfafner View Post
    Marxism and liberalism (both the European and American versions) are incompatible philosophies so I am wary of any writing that conflates them.
    Of course all are aware of this fact. But we aren't talking about classical studies and definitions, and so at the same time it is necessary to be aware that there exists this mutant fusion in modern times; the worst and most crass aspects of finance capitalism and mass-culture tinged with the rather annoying nuances of social/cultural Marxist sensibilities.

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    I personally consider nihilism an abhorrent philosophy and its adherents to be fit for nothing but mental institutions; but I don't deny it is a philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Paul View Post
    I personally consider nihilism an abhorrent philosophy and its adherents to be fit for nothing but mental institutions; but I don't deny it is a philosophy.
    What about Heideggerian thought do you imagine to be nihilistic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Paul View Post
    I personally consider nihilism an abhorrent philosophy and its adherents to be fit for nothing but mental institutions; but I don't deny it is a philosophy.
    I must confess I accept nihilism (for me the only honest form of atheism) in elite individuals, iff they dont try to make proselitism as long as nihilist and cinical (y-key location is too stressful for my fingers) masses are the root of all evil.

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