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    The Battle of Bileća was fought on 27 August 1388 between Bosniak forces led by Duke Vlatko Vuković and the Ottomans under the leadership of Lala Shahin Pasha. Vlatkos army numbered 7,000 fighters from Bosnia, and Shahin Pashas army numbered 18,000 fighters. It was the first facing of Turks at Rudine, the Bosniaks, although fewer, finally fought near the town of Bileća and gave them a defeat, which delayed the Ottomans' advances into Bosnia. Shahin Pasha escaped by fleeing, while the losses in the victorious ranks were insignificant.

    The Battle has left a great impression on the people of that era who engraved at the tomb of Duke Vlatko in Boljuni near Stolac the following inscription:

    Ase leži dobri čoek Vlatko Vuković. Vojvoda Vlatko je prvi pobijedio Turke kod Bileće 27. avgusta 1388. (ɖсє ʌєжн Δобϸн vоєк □ʌɖmко □ɣко□нƛ. □ʌɖmко ѣ пϸ□н побнѣΔно mɣϸкє коΔ бнʌєƛє 27. ɖɣгɣсmɖ 1388.)
    (Here lies the good man Vlatko Vuković. Duke Vlatko was the first who defeated the Turks at Bileća August 27th 1388.)

    Slava nasem heroju Vlatku Kosaci Bosnjaku!



    Bog Bosna Bosnjaci!

    EDIT: I just read on a website that Serbian forces under the command of Đurad Balšić, an independent Serb noblemen participated in the battle on the side of the Ottomans. Fun stuff, dunno if it's true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davai View Post
    Vlatko Vuković Kosača (died 1392) was a 14th-century Bosnian[1] vojvoda[2] (Duke) and one of the best military commanders of King Tvrtko I of Bosnia. He was the lord of a semi-independent[according to whom?] realm of "Zahumlje" (Hum) of the Kingdom of Bosnia.

    He was a son of Duke Vuk Kosača, the founder of the noble house known as the Kosačas[dubious – discuss]. He governed the province[dubious – discuss] of Hum, which was part of the Banate of Bosnia. The Ottoman threat was building to the east, threatening neighboring Herzegovina. On 27 August 1388, Grand Duke Vlatko defeated an Ottoman raiding party (some 18,000 strong) that had invaded Hum in the Battle of Bileća. Bosnian heavy cavalry are typically credited with winning the battle as they broke the Ottoman ranks and pursued the retreating enemy. It has been cited that "Ottoman leader Shain barely managed to save himself with the small band of his soldiers".[3] In 1389, he commanded an army that fought alongside Serbian Prince Lazar Hrebeljanović at the Battle of Kosovo against the Ottomans. Vuković was one of few commanders who survived the battle. Although the battle is viewed now as a decisive defeat at the time the battle was viewed differently; Vuković reported the outcome of the battle as a victory, as the Ottomans suffered heavy losses and were forced to withdraw for a time.

    A council was convoked by the king or noblemen who opposed the sale of Konavli by Radič Sanković to Dubrovnik, He and Pavle Radenović later captured Konavli and divided it between themselves. Vlatko later died.[4]

    He died in 1392. His nephew Sandalj Hranić succeeded him.

    Vuković's grave lies marked near the village of Boljuni near Stolac, in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Inscription on the grave was written in Bosancica: "Ase leži dobri junak i čovjek Vlatko Vuković" (English: Here lies a good hero and good man, Vlatko Vuković.)


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlatko_Vukovi%C4%87
    Good thing you posted his summary, he deserves it. Yes, Bosniaks fought with Serbs at Kosovo against Turks. Never heard a "thank you" for it from Serbs, btw.
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    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davai View Post
    no need, motherfucker had to pay his fealty like the rest of you serfs.

    Indeed, fighting with Serfs against Turks was a mistake. Should have been the other way around. You had to infest this glorious thread dedicated to Bosniak heroes, knights and martyrs with your presence and insults. You even disturb the dead. Pathetic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davai View Post
    you already disturb these heroes every friday when you go to your đumanamaz to kiss the floor in the name of Allah in you Mosques.
    We changed our religion, but genetically remained the same people. This cannot be said for you.

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    disgusting nigger.
    Are you projecting?
    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davai View Post
    there is nothing to thank you for, motherfucker had to pay his fealty like the rest of you serfs.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zachlumia
    Then you should know that Vukovic's and Kosaca's come from Sokolac/Gorazde

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    Indeed, fighting with Serfs against Turks was a mistake. Should have been the other way around. You had to infest this glorious thread dedicated to Bosniak heroes, knights and martyrs with your presence and insults. You even disturb the dead. Pathetic.
    The greatest mistake in history. Every time we helped them they claimed that as evidence of weakness or subservience ignoring the fact that since King Tvrtko's conquest parts of Serbia were incorporated into Bosnia. Bosnian border was on Kosovo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davai View Post
    Dear son of a dromedary whore, have you ever asked yourself why do you have such light peasant face!?!?!?

    why you look like the same as those mongrels in Vojvodina, and those rednecks in Slavonia, why do you resemble to disgusting Vlachs in Istria and Kvarner!?!?But extent of your bastardization does not stop here, it further extends beyond Pazarluk, down to Northern Albanian where Arnavuti fucked your prostitute mothers and you were even clapping to their success.
    Serbs - the only people who use white/pale skin and hair as evidence of non-Europeaness
    I guess all that afro-asiatic dick and setanje papuca influenced your mind to the breaking point
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    Quote Originally Posted by davai View Post
    debeli, I already explain to your disgusting peasant face where you belong to. - SLOVEN WOROLOLOLOL





    "Phenotype of old Slavs, 6th to 10th centuries", by Łukasz M. Stanaszek.

    I. Byzantine sources:

    1. Procopius of Caesarea (6th century):

    - "(...) Valerian chose one of the Sklaveni who are men of mighty stature. (...)"

    - "(...) Nay further, they do not differ at all from one another in appearance. For they are all exceptionally tall and stalwart men, while their bodies and hair are neither very fair or very blonde, nor indeed do they incline entirely to the dark type, but they are slightly ruddy in color. (...)"

    2. Theophilact Simokatta (describing events from year 595):

    "(...) The Emperor was with great curiosity listening to stories about this tribe, he has welcomed these newcomers from the land of barbarians, and after being amazed by their height and mighty stature, he sent these men to Heraclea. (...)"

    3. Theophanes the Confessor (describing the same event from year 595):

    "(...) The Emperor was admiring their beauty and their stalwart stature. (...)"

    4. Pseudo-Maurice (Strategikon) - late 6th century / early 7th century:

    "(...) Tribes of Sclaveni and Antes (...) are very resistant to hardships, they easily endure both heat and cold, rain and lack of garment. (...)"

    5. Constantine Porphyrogennetos (10th century):

    About ancestors of Balkan Croats and ancestors of Balkan Serbs:

    "(...) their ancestors were Pagan Croats and Serbs, known also as White [Croats and Serbs]. Great Croatia, called also White [Croatia], until today is still Pagan, just like neighbouring [Lusatian] Serbs [Sorbs] (...)"

    II. Muslim and Sephardi Jewish sources:

    6. Al-Baladuri (late 7th century):

    "(...) Slavs are a tribe of ruddy complexion and fair hair. (...)"

    7. Ibn Qutajba (describing events from years 691 - 694):

    "(...) If only Prince wanted, outside of his doors would be black Sudanians or ruddy Slavs (...)"

    The same information is repeated also by 8. Al-Baladuri (9th century).

    9. Al-Ahtal (late 7th century):

    "(...) Birds of the desert saw in those people a crowd of fair-haired Slavs. (...)"

    10. Jaqut (13th century, but using much older primary sources):

    "(...) Slavs are a tribe of ruddy complexion and fair hair. (...)"

    11. Ibn Al-Kalbi (late 8th century / early 9th century):

    "(...) Slavs are a numerous nation, fair-haired and of ruddy [pink] complexion. (...)"

    12. Al-Gahiz (early 9th century):

    "(...) Among Slavs, abominable and ugly are their smoothness of hair [as opposed to curly hair] and delicateness, as well as blond or ruddy colour of their hair and beards, and also whiteness [bright blond colour] of their eyelashes (...)"

    Al-Gahiz:

    "(...) Tell me friend, after how many generations a Zang became black, and a Slav became white? (...)"

    13. Abraham ben Jacob (years 965 - 966):

    "(...) What is peculiar [when it comes to Slavs], most of Bojema people [Bohemians / Czechs] are of swarthy complexion and dark hair, while fair colors are rare among them [compared to frequencies among other West and East Slavs]. (...)"


    Abraham ben Jacob:



    "(...) Slavic people are often haunted by two diseases (...) these are two types of rash: redness and abscess (...)"

    14. Ibn Al-Faqih (10th century):

    "(...) There exist two kinds of Slavic people. First kind are people of swarthy complexion and dark hair. They live near the coast of the [Mediterranean] Sea. The other kind are fair people, who live inland. (...)"


    Ibn Al-Faqih:

    "(...) Inhabitants of Iraq are people (...) who are not born with hair colour intermediate between russet, blond, matt-white and white [bright blond], as it happens among children born from Slavic women. (...) People of Iraq are free from russet hair colour of Slavs. (...)"

    15. Al-Masudi (10th century):

    He writes that dominant complexion among Slavic people is fair, not dark.

    III. German sources:

    15. Saint Bruno of Querfurt:

    He wrote that in Poland having a beard was a common custom among men.
    So now your Serbification attempts are based on the claim that we are the pure slavs/Serbs while you are just asiatic mongrels?
    How the world turns
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    Quote Originally Posted by davai View Post
    PINK-SKIN

    now read your description

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...rbs-themselves!

    illyrians are dicking you though, fucking mongrel.
    Because Germans and Norwegians dont have pink skin. Their skin is black
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    Quote Originally Posted by davai View Post
    gypsy, we are Antean Conquerors, the truest of Sarmatians who subjugated your peasant race.

    but lesser specimen such as yourself are prone to subjugation so it does not surprise at all you serve tirklers today.

    slave
    That is why you are dark skinned while we subjugated ones are white
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    Quote Originally Posted by davai View Post
    no son, I am hyperdolicho and mesomorph Irano-nordoid who SKULLmogs your little-tiny square-head like a coconut.
    Nah, you are an offspring of Turks fucking your ancestors, a testimony to inaction of your "forefathers" who did nothing to stop the Beys from screwing their wives, and instead chose to walk his slippers
    Dark dick dark kid
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