Rank from most to least likely to reunify within 20 years time: Ireland, Cyprus, Korea

**Zeno** · 10-12-2020, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by sean

Greece is an EU member.

It is bankrupt practically.

It is infinitely worse off economically and socially in comparison to before it was an EU member.

Everything you are saying is Europhile clap-trap about your glorious infallible union that always seems to be on the brink of collapse.

Every economist worth his salt says that letting Greece join the EU when it did was a mistake for both them and the EU. Europhiles like you treat membership like a land grab where your willing to sacrifice stability to increase your territory. Attitudes like yours are the reason why the EU is in the state its in.

EU is facing exactly the same problems Japan faced in the 90s and is doing precisely the same things, namely lowering interest rates and introducing quantitative easing programs while hoping that inflation will return.

The European internal market is strongly dependent on external factors. If the ECB fails to keep the euro devalued the way it is or runs out of funds to subsidise certain businesses, like the car industry, you can bet your sorry arse that internal European suppliers will go bankrupt.

EU is a pointless organisation that fulfills its own agenda instead of what the ECC used to fulfill perfectly. It's proof you can't give Germans any sort of oversight when they can potentially outsmart other members of their organisation because Krauts are too autistic to factor in human retardation and greed hence why their shit always inevitably goes to hell. Plus the frogs are cunts.

I will only answer this part as it's the one that interests me (saw this reply now, after Tooting Karen bumped it):

Yes, you're absolutely right in here. Greece was much, much better off when it was outside of the EU. Fact. Before 1981, Greece experienced astromomical growth rates that averaged 9,3% from 1949 to 1981, with 8% for 1949 to 1960 , 13-15% for 1960 to 1974 and 5% from 1974 to 1981. Debt-to-GDP ratio was at 13%, an entire world apart from the 150% we have today. The state budgets and trade balances were always ending in surpluses or were evenly balanced. The inflation rate of the drachma was at 2%. And our GDP per capita back in 1980 had reached 14,5k euros, or in US dollars, 20.000 for the era. $20.000 for 1980 was ultra-developed country tier back then. We were at the same level as Austria, Germany, Sweden and Italy. We were in the top 15 in the world in terms of per capita income. And top 10 in individual wealth. All that before we even joined.

Our industry accounted for 60% of our GDP and we manufactured everything, from machinery and cars to all electrical appliances. Our agriculture was thriving back then and we exported most of it, as we had a surplus. The only groceries we imported was basically exotic fruits if anything.

But then, 1981 came and it all crashed down. Our growth rates instantly went down to zero or recessed, our industry diminished, our agriculture obliterated thanks to EU bans on state agricultural benefits that boosted local production and our income per capita remained stagnated and we no longer were at the same level as the countries I mentioned above. We would have to wait until the mid 1990s until we had growth again and reclaimed some of our status. But it would be needless, as social democrats from 1980 to 1993 increased our debt from 13% to 110+% of our GDP, and our state budget and trade balance surpluses became deficits. All of them from the mid 80s in fact.

So yeah, we basically sold our economy to the krauts in order to... "join Europe"... Yeah, like the EU represents Europe at all...

**Tooting Carmen** · 01-10-2022, 08:22 PM

bump

**Anaximander** · 01-10-2022, 08:24 PM

Ireland
Korea
Cyprus

From most to least likely.

**Tooting Carmen** · 05-12-2022, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Anaximander

Ireland
Korea
Cyprus

From most to least likely.

Why that order?

**~~Nachi~~** · 05-12-2022, 05:10 PM

Korea
Ireland
Cyprus

**Grace O'Malley** · 05-14-2022, 08:56 AM

Out of those Ireland has the most chance of that happening.

**Creoda** · 05-14-2022, 10:29 AM

I've always thought in the case of Irish re-unification there should just be a house-swap between all the Celtic supporters in Glasgow and the Rangers supporters in Belfast - win-win.