Do more Southern Europeans look convincingly North European or Middle Eastern?

[Sikeliot]

By this I mean, for each Southern European group, are there more people who resemble their closest-looking North European group or their closest-looking Middle Eastern group?

[Blake]

Maybe Iberia, North African, Italians ME. IMO.

[Sikeliot]

Maybe Iberia, North African, Italians ME. IMO.

This may be. But what I mean is are there more people in Greece who look convincingly Armenian or convincingly non-Balkans Slavic? Do more Iberians look British or North African? Do more Sicilians look Northwest/North-central European or Levantine? etc.

As a collective. I would say it might depend on region but I am inclined to believe most light Southern Europeans do not look North European, but most cannot also be MENA.

[spanish catalan]

I think north europeans.
but Iberians have minor north african and phoenician influence and italians and greeks have minor Caucasus-anatolian influence

[Anthropologique]

I think north europeans.
but Iberians have minor north african and phoenician influence and italians and greeks have minor Caucasus-anatolian influence

Very, very few Iberians show North African phenotypically. The Phoenicians left no footprint to speak since they only had a few small, self contained trading colonies along the southern coasts.

Italians and Greeks show more West Asian.

[Anthropologique]

This may be. But what I mean is are there more people in Greece who look convincingly Armenian or convincingly non-Balkans Slavic? Do more Iberians look British or North African? Do more Sicilians look Northwest/North-central European or Levantine? etc.

As a collective. I would say it might depend on region but I am inclined to believe most light Southern Europeans do not look North European, but most cannot also be MENA.

NATIVE Iberians do not look N. African, except the indigenous Canarians and some Portuguese islanders. Good numbers in Western Iberia would pass in NW Europe.

[spanish catalan]

Very, very few Iberians show North African phenotypically. The Phoenicians left no footprint to speak since they only had a few small trading colonies on the southern coasts.

Italians and Greeks show more West Asian.

I agree with you,but what do you think about haplogroup E M81 in Iberia? and the E M123(phoenician)?

[Blake]

Saharid (very few), Berid, and some Med can pass as NA IMO, some Atlantids, North Atlantids and Nordids (very few) pass in British Isles or other country in NE.
The majority Med, Atlanto-Med and Atlantid is typical from Iberia, but are Europeans and pass better in others Europeans countries than NA. So my answer is clearly in European countries.

[щрбл]

I don't know. However you certainly do not look middle eastern but extremely Italian. You are condemned to belong to the European and white race. You shall bear the guilt of your colonial ancestors until the day you die. Sorry.

[Anthropologique]

I agree with you,but what do you think about haplogroup E M81 in Iberia? and the E M123(phoenician)?

M123 from what I know is extremely low and M81 as been recorded among the Siberian influenced peoples of Norway and Finland. It's also found in modest amounts in places like France and Wales. In any case, haplogroups are extremely insignificant and only autosomal DNA counts as a determinant of phenotype. Haplogroups simply identify your earliest ancestor's origin, nothing more.

Example: My haplogroup, going to its core, reveals my founding ancestor came from Gotterland in the N. Sea, however, that hardly means I'm a true N. Sea product overall. Gotterland, by the way, was consumed by the N. Sea eons ago and no longer exists, except for submerged remnants.