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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimage View Post
    But would you welcome Middleastern immigrants in Spain rather than Eastern euro immigrants?(real eastern euros not gypos)
    I dont want in Spain any kind of foreigner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tacitus View Post
    The city of Sirmium (now Nis IIRC) in modern-day Serbia produced 10 (!) Roman emperors alone,
    Quality before quantity.
    As I posted, Trajan and Hadrian are considered among The Five Good Emperors", not these from Serbia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tacitus View Post
    but generally most emperors were indeed of Italic stock – including Trajan (his mother came from the noble gens Marcia, of Sabine origin). The gens Ulpii had lived in Hispania for some time, but could trace their line back to Rome.
    Sorry but not

    Aunque la familia de Trajano decía proceder de la Península Itálica, recientemente varios historiadores han apuntado que los antepasados de la familia eran nativos de Hispania, siendo Trajano el Viejo en realidad un Traius adoptado por la familia de los Ulpii.
    Although the Trajano family is said to come from the Italian Peninsula, recently several historians have suggested that the ancestors of the family were natives of Hispania, being Trajano The Old in reality a Traius adopted by the family of the Ulpii.

    http://www.abc.es/espana/20140916/ab...409151616.html

    Trajano, primer Emperador de Roma de origen no italiano
    Trajano, the first Emperor of Roma from non Italian origin

    http://hispanememento.blogspot.com.e...e-roma-de.html

    Hispania was probably the richer Roman province, and craddle of the many philosophers, senators, militars and emperors (the best in fact).
    It is not comparable with the Balkans in any sense. The Romanization of both is the best proof. Language, culture, laws, architecture...

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    I guess you better take a look at the lists of inventions or discoveries: Middle East, Albania and East European (Mostly Slavic) countries, and please don't mention the ancient times

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    Actually Mid east today is living a bad era, but the middle east per se was waaaaaaay more developped than the whole world, (Agriculture, writing system,...)



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    Middle Easterners easily overcome the senile, fat Baltic Slaves of the East

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    Middle easterners have lived in cities for thousands of years uninterrupted while Eastern euros have just started to create cities. It is the only reason why Jews are smartest because they have always lived in cities. Competition trading knowledge hustling to survive in daily bases for thousands of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    Nevertheless, average income of Polish and Russian Americans is comparable to that of Arabs.
    Actually German-Americans have per capita income more comparable to that of Arabs, while Polish-Americans have higher:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_ca...es_by_ancestry


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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Actually German-Americans have per capita income more comparable to that of Arabs, while Polish-Americans have higher:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_ca...es_by_ancestry

    That is in 1999,

    and second look at the population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilOlympi
    That is in 1999, and second look at the population.
    What's the difference if 1999 or 2009? What could dramatically change? But if you have more recent data, then post it.

    And what does the population size have to do with anything here? It is average income, not accumulated income.

    If we look at PISA then Poles also score higher than Germans. North-East Asians are the best in PISA and in IQ tests:



    Though in terms of IQ Poles seem to be 1 point below Germans - with average Polish IQ at 106 and German 107:

    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/...ite-europeans/

    http://mentalfloss.com/article/14265...testing-center

    http://www.pgf.cc/2006/03/28/poles-h...-iq-in-europe/

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    If you look at economic growth, then between 1991 and 2015 Poland has had by far the fastest economic growth in Europe.

    At least the fast in the group of large countries.

    In Communist times Poland was among the poorest of all Communist countries - that's because Polish mind is utterly Anti-Communism, Poles cannot live under Communism, they have not evolved to this system. Ukrainians were doing much better under Communism.

    But in Capitalism Poles feel like fish in water, apparently. Of course not all, but the majority. For example in 1990 Poland's GDP per capita was only 46% of East Germany's, and in 2008 already 75%. In 1991 Poland's GDP per capita was only 36% of UK's, and in 2014 already 64%. In 1991 Poland's GDP per capita was 63% of Hungary's, in 2014 already 101%. Figures for Italy are 30% and 71%, for Spain 38% and 74%.

    In 1991 Portugal and Greece had over 2 times higher GDP per capita than Poland, in 2014 they had the same as Poland.

    Data from International Monetary Fund (IMF).
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