Iraq War is Not Over — Just Privatized

[Curtis24]

No. It's my understanding that security of the oil fields was taken over by the private security forces of the dozens of companies contracting these years ago. I assumed this was common knowledge.

so where is your proof?
you asked for proof that the U.S. is guarding the oil, I gave some pretty damn powerful proof, that you didn't respond to. Go back and read that comment by the senior general of the Iraqi army who acknowledges that the U.S. military is sill providing security for the country.

furthermore, anything can be made to look technically real. technically, Iraq owns the oil and provides security for it. The reality - as articulated by General Zabari himself - is that U.S. forces, whether military forces or security firm forces, are doing the real security work.

[Piparskeggr]

If I may just interject one historical note?

Protection of oil sources so that it can flow at market prices, beneficial to the US economy, has been a part of US national strategy since Dwight David Eisenhower was president.

He who later "mea culpa'd" with his "Military-Industrial complex" speechifying. Just a first sign that the creature got away from Doctor Frankenstein.

[Psychonaut]

Halliburton for one. You're right no benefit at all.

Halliburton is largely owned by Arabs, no? But, yeah, as my original link indicated there are a several "American" companies that've been awarded contracts. But if this were really a war for oil, why would American companies currently not dominate oil export in Iraq? I wish we did just take over their oil exportation. Then we wouldn't be going broke trying to pay for the damn war.

I gave some pretty damn powerful proof, that you didn't respond to.

With good reason:

¬ ( [securing Iraq] ⇒ [securing oil fields] )

You constructed an implicit syllogistic fallacy. Of course the Iraqi Army has trouble securing the whole country; this is not news. He, however, mentions nothing specific about the oil zones, which was our point of contention, right? Most are not under the watch of either the US military or the Iraqi military. They are guarded by private security contractors such as Facility Protection Services and Erinys Iraq Ltd.

[Sol Invictus]

Halliburton is largely owned by Arabs, no? But, yeah, as my original link indicated there are a several "American" companies that've been awarded contracts. But if this were really a war for oil, why would American companies currently not dominate oil export in Iraq?

Halliburton is still American owned. Dick Cheney is still getting his cut, although the current CEO is moving to Dubai, I am not sure if this is expansion as he says or if it's an outright transfer. Anyway, American corporations are not the only ones who are "in" on the plunder and they're certainly not the most powerful. Then again there's been so many mergers and transfers of ownership with from within the U.S oil companies (BP, Shell etc) it's hard to keep track of who owns what. It's not exclusively for oil since this is just a warspoil, but corporations and their owners, both foreign and American directly benefit from this. By and large this is a Trilateralist, CFR, and Globalist imperative that transcends nation-states and is more concerned about foreign, multinational corporations and their interests. You should elimate the concept of the Nationalist kind of thinking when it comes to understanding these people and their goals. It's neither in the interest of the people or the state besides measures set in place to maintain their perpetual existence thanks soley to the war on terror, of which Iraq is a part of. It's multi-faceted. To say it's only for one thing or another is false.

[ikki]

intresting... guess iraq is now owned by the military corporation...

[Curtis24]

Halliburton is largely owned by Arabs, no? But, yeah, as my original link indicated there are a several "American" companies that've been awarded contracts. But if this were really a war for oil, why would American companies currently not dominate oil export in Iraq? I wish we did just take over their oil exportation. Then we wouldn't be going broke trying to pay for the damn war.



With good reason:

¬ ( [securing Iraq] ⇒ [securing oil fields] )

You constructed an implicit syllogistic fallacy. Of course the Iraqi Army has trouble securing the whole country; this is not news. He, however, mentions nothing specific about the oil zones, which was our point of contention, right? Most are not under the watch of either the US military or the Iraqi military. They are guarded by private security contractors such as Facility Protection Services and Erinys Iraq Ltd.

But this only bolsters the original argument of this thread: the U.S. is still providing security for Iraq - and by extension, Iraqi oil supplies(Yes, securing Iraq and securing oil fields are the same thing) - through private companies.