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    It was tall (175.5cm), dolichocephalic, with broad faces of medium height. Among them there were, however, more robust elements with high and wide faces of the proto-Europoid type, and also more gracile individuals with narrow and high faces, probably reflecting contacts with the East Mediterranean type (Kurts 1984: 90).
    So, Dinariform majority, with also Eastcromagnids and Pontids? Sounds about right.

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    Facial reconstruction from an amateur historian. Look at that brow ridge.


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    Would they already be classified as caucasoid? i wonder what caused modern caucasoids to have much softer and weaker facial features? was it sexaul selection or adaption to soft food?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Facial reconstruction from an amateur historian

    This guy looks more leptoprosopic, lower-headed with a more massive chin than the skull (I mean the skull has a wide open mount and stll can't nowhere reach the bottom of the guy's face, how much meat is his going to have there?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by One-Eyed King View Post
    What race were these people?
    They were steppe people, most likely looking from Tatar, VURish to Romanian and Bulgarian. The unifying factor was the steppe culture, not race.

    All samples found in Yamnaya sites fit their region today (the fits are reasonable for 5000 yo samples: top distances from 15 to 25). They are not some extinct alien race, they match steppe populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhulta View Post
    Would they already be classified as caucasoid? i wonder what caused modern caucasoids to have much softer and weaker facial features? was it sexaul selection or adaption to soft food?
    Less selective pressure for robustness and a growing population. As well as less robust individuals having lower caloric and protein needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilcar View Post
    Kinda interesting how Soviet time reconstructions make them look quite Nordic, and modern reconstructions make them look quite Churka, with modern ones being probably right.

    Apart from physical anthro, their hair lenght seems correct as well, because in the vast majority of Indo-European cultures males tended to cut their hair short, and females to keep them long, so it's very likely it's a tradition inherited from PIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    Kinda interesting how Soviet time reconstructions make them look quite Nordic, and modern reconstructions make them look quite Churka, with modern ones being probably right.

    Apart from physical anthro, their hair lenght seems correct as well, because in the vast majority of Indo-European cultures males tended to cut their hair short, and females to keep them long, so it's very likely it's a tradition inherited from PIE.

    Being half CHG. They would have looked at least a little churka. CHG of course had a good amount of basal Eurasian from their Dzuzuana side.

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