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    Which share at this diagram should represent Iranic component in particular?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowledge is king View Post
    Which share at this diagram should represent Iranic component in particular?
    I am misinformed but could be Tajiks/Pamiris?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowledge is king View Post
    Which share at this diagram should represent Iranic component in particular?
    Iranic component would be Caucasian, NE_Euro and S_Indian, the Mongolian would be dominantly E_Asian.

    But modern Iranic component is much more Caucasian now with the extinction of East Iranian nomads in Europe and the Steppes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowledge is king View Post
    Here is mine 'puntDNAL K15', would be nice to compare them.

    My East Asian share is lower while Siberian one is higher. Also I have European component.

    Ahh so for your Mongoloid component it is not FULLY 100% Siberian since there is also that 37.28% 'E_Asian' as well. It will probably depend on the calculator though as it is relative to what reference population was selected for a certain component making that population the "pure" population.

    On some GEDmatch calcs I score zero Siberian while on others 5-10%+

    On this PCA Siberians seem distant enough to be their own race it looks, in between East Asians and Native Americans it appears:

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    I always wonder, what on the Graph B the axis values of PC1 and PC2 mean? What exact distribution we consider there consequently? Without proper understanding this picture have no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazouzu View Post
    Ahh so for your Mongoloid component it is not FULLY 100% Siberian since there is also that 37.28% 'E_Asian' as well. It will probably depend on the calculator though as it is relative to what reference population was selected for a certain component making that population the "pure" population.

    On some GEDmatch calcs I score zero Siberian while on others 5-10%+

    On this PCA Siberians seem distant enough to be their own race it looks, in between East Asians and Native Americans it appears:
    I made a full database of my all admixture compositions I got from calculators on Gedmatch.

    You can view my all admixture compositions for now right here :

    zhīshě's all Eurogenes runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    zhīshě's all GedrosiaDNA runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    zhīshě's all puntDNAL runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    zhīshě's all Dodecad runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    zhīshě's all MDLP runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    zhīshě's all Ethiohelix runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    zhīshě's all HarappaWorld runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    You are highly welcomed to see them and to express your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowledge is king View Post
    I made a full database of my all admixture compositions I got from calculators on Gedmatch.

    You can view my all admixture compositions for now right here :

    zhīshě's all Eurogenes runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    zhīshě's all GedrosiaDNA runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    zhīshě's all puntDNAL runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    zhīshě's all Dodecad runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    zhīshě's all MDLP runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    zhīshě's all Ethiohelix runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    zhīshě's all HarappaWorld runs
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    You are highly welcomed to see them and to express your opinion.
    Should compare to this Gökturk sample from around 600 A.D:

    # Population Percent
    1 Northeast_Asian 34.66
    2 Southeast_Asian 27.53
    3 West_European 14.43
    4 East_European 10.81
    5 West_Asian 10.54
    6 South_Asian 1.82


    Finished reading population data. 227 populations found.
    12 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Altai @ 9.495087
    2 Kyrgyzstani @ 11.248915
    3 Mongol @ 18.637209
    4 Tuva @ 19.664129
    5 Uygur @ 20.699966
    6 Hazara @ 21.404951
    7 Dolgan @ 22.143494
    8 Buryat @ 24.513571
    9 Uzbeks @ 24.735023
    10 Buryat @ 24.821211
    11 Yukagir @ 25.699213
    12 Selkup @ 29.646893
    13 Yakut @ 31.198229
    14 Oroqen @ 32.852871
    15 Evenk_15 @ 36.918957
    16 Daur @ 37.456837
    17 Mongola @ 37.687393
    18 Hezhen @ 37.980820
    19 Xibo @ 41.094051
    20 Chuvashs_16 @ 43.942310


    Gokturk sample, MDLP World 22

    # Population Percent
    1 East-Siberean 27.40
    2 East-South-Asian 17.19
    3 North-East-European 14.37
    4 Samoedic 13.63
    5 North-Siberean 10.45
    6 West-Asian 8.94
    7 South-America_Amerind 1.88
    8 Indo-Iranian 1.25
    9 Paleo-Siberian 1.16


    Finished reading population data. 276 populations found.
    22 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Altaic @ 8.787984
    2 Hakas @ 9.468202
    3 Kazakh @ 11.127083
    4 Shor @ 13.193381
    5 Karakalpak @ 13.344393
    6 Kyrgyz @ 14.426857
    7 Uygur @ 20.866812
    8 Tuva @ 21.522612
    9 Bashkir @ 22.600176
    10 Kalmyk @ 22.675993
    11 Hazara @ 22.718258
    12 Mongol @ 25.225319
    13 Uzbek @ 25.446110
    14 Buryat @ 25.842859
    15 Nivhi @ 28.907421
    16 Ste7 @ 29.818701
    17 Yukagir @ 30.685778
    18 Yukagir @ 30.685778
    19 Oroqen @ 33.707439
    20 Tatar_Lithuania @ 33.784519

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bashkir +50% Tuva @ 6.672640

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian Mleccha View Post
    Should compare to this Gökturk sample from around 600 A.D:

    # Population Percent
    1 Northeast_Asian 34.66
    2 Southeast_Asian 27.53
    3 West_European 14.43
    4 East_European 10.81
    5 West_Asian 10.54
    6 South_Asian 1.82


    Finished reading population data. 227 populations found.
    12 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Altai @ 9.495087
    2 Kyrgyzstani @ 11.248915
    3 Mongol @ 18.637209
    4 Tuva @ 19.664129
    5 Uygur @ 20.699966
    6 Hazara @ 21.404951
    7 Dolgan @ 22.143494
    8 Buryat @ 24.513571
    9 Uzbeks @ 24.735023
    10 Buryat @ 24.821211
    11 Yukagir @ 25.699213
    12 Selkup @ 29.646893
    13 Yakut @ 31.198229
    14 Oroqen @ 32.852871
    15 Evenk_15 @ 36.918957
    16 Daur @ 37.456837
    17 Mongola @ 37.687393
    18 Hezhen @ 37.980820
    19 Xibo @ 41.094051
    20 Chuvashs_16 @ 43.942310


    Gokturk sample, MDLP World 22

    # Population Percent
    1 East-Siberean 27.40
    2 East-South-Asian 17.19
    3 North-East-European 14.37
    4 Samoedic 13.63
    5 North-Siberean 10.45
    6 West-Asian 8.94
    7 South-America_Amerind 1.88
    8 Indo-Iranian 1.25
    9 Paleo-Siberian 1.16


    Finished reading population data. 276 populations found.
    22 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Altaic @ 8.787984
    2 Hakas @ 9.468202
    3 Kazakh @ 11.127083
    4 Shor @ 13.193381
    5 Karakalpak @ 13.344393
    6 Kyrgyz @ 14.426857
    7 Uygur @ 20.866812
    8 Tuva @ 21.522612
    9 Bashkir @ 22.600176
    10 Kalmyk @ 22.675993
    11 Hazara @ 22.718258
    12 Mongol @ 25.225319
    13 Uzbek @ 25.446110
    14 Buryat @ 25.842859
    15 Nivhi @ 28.907421
    16 Ste7 @ 29.818701
    17 Yukagir @ 30.685778
    18 Yukagir @ 30.685778
    19 Oroqen @ 33.707439
    20 Tatar_Lithuania @ 33.784519

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bashkir +50% Tuva @ 6.672640
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazouzu View Post

    On this PCA Siberians seem distant enough to be their own race it looks, in between East Asians and Native Americans it appears:
    Who are the South Asians near the Melanesians? Are those probably South Indians, Sri Lankans and Bengalis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Who are the South Asians near the Melanesians? Are those probably South Indians, Sri Lankans and Bengalis?
    I guess so.

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