What is the most controversial haplogroup?

[Petalpusher]

E1b represents the Early Neolithic Expansion and as a whole the Neolithic/Agricultural revolution,when mankind went from strong rogue predator hunter-gatherer that spins the food chain on his pinky finger and kills mammoths with a sharpened stick to a britle,gracilized domesticated farmer who plants food in the ground and sits in one place waiting for it to grow while his body decays.

Why this forum repeats the same wrong things over and over again?



Even the 1 E1b in the EN is of mesolithic origin. Not a single one in the neolithic cultures such as LBK, Starcevo, ...

[Ülev]

R1

[Linebacker]

Why this forum repeats the same wrong things over and over again?



Even the 1 E1b in the EN is of mesolithic origin. Not a single one in the neolithic cultures such as LBK, Starcevo, ...

Your photo clearly shows there IS a E1b ENF sample.

And this quote from eupedia also states it

It is still unclear when haplogroup E first entered Europe. The earliest known prehistoric sample to date is an E-V13 from Catalonia dating from 5000 BCE. So we know for sure that E1b1b was present in southern Europe at least since the Early Neolithic.

[oblivion]

E1b represents the Early Neolithic Expansion and as a whole the Neolithic/Agricultural revolution,when mankind went from strong rogue predator hunter-gatherer that spins the food chain on his pinky finger and kills mammoths with a sharpened stick to a britle,gracilized domesticated farmer who plants food in the ground and sits in one place waiting for it to grow while his body decays.

Was the only haplogroup associated with farming...I don't think so..

[Petalpusher]

Your photo clearly shows there IS a E1b ENF sample.

And this quote from eupedia also states it

The Neoltihic farmers who migrated from the Levant to the Balkans would have brought mostly Southwest Asian admixture and apparently exclusively Y-haplogroup G2a. Many Neolithic sites yielded an occasional "outsider" to the G2a majority, but these were lineages (C1a2, F, I1, I2) that are thought to belong to assimilated (or enslaved) Mesolithic hunter-gatherers. That was very probably the case with E-V13 in Catalonia too.

It came later from N.Africa, a founder effect in the Balkan or whatever, but not the neolithic farmers who were exclusively G.

[GoneWithTheWind]

Why this forum repeats the same wrong things over and over again?



Even the 1 E1b in the EN is of mesolithic origin. Not a single one in the neolithic cultures such as LBK, Starcevo, ...

Because people on this forum are anthrotards.

[Linebacker]

It came later from N.Africa, a founder effect in the Balkan or whatever, but not the neolithic farmers who were exclusively G.

So if the spearpoint of the Neolithic Revolution was not E1b/E-V13 whatever but actually G2 explain its complete abscense from most of continental Europe??Even in Southern Europe the percentages are very dim,not including Italy,they are always fucked.

Looking at this it just doesn't seem to me that it was the G2 farmers that made Europe to start farming(which was the concept of my first post,the end of the hunter-gatherer era),the E1b farmers left a much stronger impact.

[Wrong]

Why this forum repeats the same wrong things over and over again?



Even the 1 E1b in the EN is of mesolithic origin. Not a single one in the neolithic cultures such as LBK, Starcevo, ...

Linebacker is an idiot.

[Petalpusher]

So if the spearpoint of the Neolithic Revolution was not E1b/E-V13 whatever but actually G2 explain its complete abscense from most of continental Europe??Even in Southern Europe the percentages are very dim,not including Italy,they are always fucked.

Looking at this it just doesn't seem to me that it was the G2 farmers that made Europe to start farming(which was the concept of my first post,the end of the hunter-gatherer era),the E1b farmers left a much stronger impact.

Bronze age, the steppe, Rethel, you know? What came last, lasts.

[Linebacker]

Bronze age, the steppe, you know? What came last, lasts.

And thats what I was talking about in the post you quoted me on

and as a whole the Neolithic/Agricultural revolution,when mankind went from strong rogue predator hunter-gatherer that spins the food chain on his pinky finger and kills mammoths with a sharpened stick to a britle,gracilized domesticated farmer who plants food in the ground and sits in one place waiting for it to grow while his body decays.

I was talking about the ones that did the job,it was the E1b dudes.