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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    You know nothing about S.Italy genetics, please stay.quiet before talking about something that you don't have any clue about.
    There are reasonably light looking Italians who have done 23andme test and put it on YouTube, and they have discovered significant MENA admixture. Same with Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    You know nothing about S.Italy genetics, please stay.quiet before talking about something that you don't have any clue about.
    Look for genetic maps of southern Italy, and you'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    Look for genetic maps of southern Italy, and you'll see.
    MENA means nothing in genetics, keep in mind.

    CHG/Iran_N admixture is present in a lot of european countries. S.Italians have very high level of CHG and somewhat decreased levels of EEF and Steppe (in general). That explains their genetic profile.

    What I would call as stranger is Arabian/North-African admixture found only in some places.

    So your "MENA" rhetoric is ridiculous.

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    Is there light-skinned South Italians?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellerin View Post
    Is there light-skinned South Italians?

    Yes:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellerin View Post
    Is there light-skinned South Italians?
    All my italian family nearly 0 olive skinned individual

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rohanspiritual View Post
    There are reasonably light looking Italians who have done 23andme test and put it on YouTube, and they have discovered significant MENA admixture. Same with Greek.
    23andme is purely garbage, "MENA" admixture is nothing more than the East-Med continuum that extend until Levant (and particuliarly the first populations, Christian Lebanese and Druze), nothing to do with Bedouins or North-Africans though some populations of this continuum score these populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    23andme is purely garbage, "MENA" admixture is nothing more than the East-Med continuum that extend until Levant (and particuliarly the first populations, Christian Lebanese and Druze), nothing to do with Bedouins or North-Africans though some populations of this continuum score these populations.
    Hey, I hope you're right. I'd love to think that some of the ancient Romans and Greeks were swarthy as some of the Italians and Greeks you see today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rohanspiritual View Post
    Hey, I hope you're right. I'd love to think that some of the ancient Romans and Greeks were swarthy as some of the Italians and Greeks you see today.
    Ancient greeks were probably more eastern/aegean than the modern one that have veen highly slavic admixed but they didn't look like Saudis I mean.

    If you want to see a good picture of what a Ancient greek could like see the Minoan frescoes. Certainly an eastern vibe but very fair skinned and anatolian features rather than semitic or north-afican.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    Ancient greeks were probably more eastern/aegean than the modern one that have veen highly slavic admixed but they didn't look like Saudis I mean.

    If you want to see a good picture of what a Ancient greek could like see the Minoan frescoes. Certainly an eastern vibe but very fair skinned and anatolian features rather than semitic or north-afican.
    To be fair, there are Minoans who were likely darker and even much darker than the guy on the OP.







    Why such dark people existed there if they were mostly EEF (supposedly to be light-skinned) is a mystery. But probably the same as why MENAs are dark, if I recall correctly many MENAs were supposed to be light-skinned by genetics alone and many of them are even dark-brown/indian type of brown.

    I wouldn't even say some MENAs are dark only for SSA admixture, certainly their other components (East Med, Southwest Asian, Red Sea etc) don't help a lot in making someone lighter.

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