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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    maybe in your dreams Greece will come under Turkic rule again
    No fucking chance. We shall have a war against Turkey, and when I say we, I don't mean just Greece...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    What about this Greek IQ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyladybutterfly View Post
    come on , this cant be ..

    isis wont survive that long lol
    ISIS currently has 8% support in Turkey. It shall increase after the collapse of Turkey.

    ISIS shall survive in Libya and Yemen and Nigeria and elsewhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
    No fucking chance. We shall have a war against Turkey, and when I say we, I don't mean just Greece...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
    I see you love cherrypicking: average IQ world map

    Literacy map Turkey, in 2000:




    Top ten IQ cities in Turkey:

    1. Eskişehir 114.42
    2. Ankara 114.21
    3. Isparta 113.15
    4. Edirne 122.75
    5. Trabzon 112.64
    6. İzmir 112.44
    7. Burdur 112.39
    8. Bolu 112.02
    9. Denizli 111.98
    10. Kütahya 111.96



    looks like your IQ theory is demolished
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    I see you love cherrypicking: average IQ world map
    It's not cherrypicking. Your data is wrong:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and...m_of_data_sets

    Some criticisms have focused on the limited number of studies upon which the book is based. The IQ figures are based on 3 different studies, one study in 34 nations, and two studies in 30 nations. There were actual tests for IQ in 81 nations. For 104 nations there were no IQ studies at all and IQ was estimated based on IQ in surrounding nations.[2] The limited number of participants in some studies has also been criticized. A test of 108 9- to 15-year-olds in Barbados, of 50 13- to 16-year-olds in Colombia, of 104 5- to 17-year-olds in Ecuador, of 129 6- to 12-year-olds in Egypt, and of 48 10- to 14-year-olds in Equatorial Guinea, all were taken as measures of national IQ.[3]

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackrussell View Post
    The retard posts youtube videos as some sort of a "response".

    What is your response to the OP you moron?

    What do you think about the coup? Was it real or engineered by your Sultan?

    Do you have to brains to evaluate the truth, and the ballz to adit it publicly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
    The retard posts youtube videos as some sort of a "response".

    What is your response to the OP you moron?

    What do you think about the coup? Was it real or engineered by your Sultan?

    Do you have to brains to evaluate the truth, and the ballz to adit it publicly?


    You are a limp wristed Yunan ; what else is there to say ?

    Couldn't you find a donkey or two ?

    Ask Yorgo for a hand relief maybe ?


    Gladio-B is buggered to death and you want to know about the coup attempt and Erdogan's involvement ?

    Can you really handle the truth ?

    Russia - US have agreed to let Erdogan take care of Greece and Cyprus .

    Your wet dreams of Turks demise have not materialised ; on the contrary Turks are doing alright .

    Probably you think that the Kurdish Referandum will spark some type of rebellion in Turkey too .


    Let me ask you a question ; If you were a Kurd and you had the option to choose whether you gonna fight the Turk or fight the Greek , which one would you choose ?

    Muslim Kurds shall settle around Athens and administer the Mosque of Athens sooner than you think .


    Limp wristed Yunanli , take your thumb downs and collectively shove'em all up to where the sun don't shine ; if you have any difficulties , ask an Albanian for a hand .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackrussell View Post
    You are a limp wristed Yunan ; what else is there to say ?

    Couldn't you find a donkey or two ?

    Ask Yorgo for a hand relief maybe ?


    Gladio-B is buggered to death and you want to know about the coup attempt and Erdogan's involvement ?

    Can you really handle the truth ?

    Russia - US have agreed to let Erdogan take care of Greece and Cyprus .
    I am sorry to dissapoint you, but the Yankees have been pissed off at you after the Qatar debacle (among others) and they have ships supporting both the drilling in Cyprus and Greece in the Aegean, while the Russians are joking at your demand to buy the S-400 with a loan from... Russia!!!

    Your wet dreams of Turks demise have not materialised ; on the contrary Turks are doing alright .

    What is the current exchange rate of the Turkish lira again?
    Probably you think that the Kurdish Referandum will spark some type of rebellion in Turkey too .
    Absolutely not. Turkey shall collapse financially especially now that Germany has turned it's back on you. I have made two threads in the Turkish section about that.

    Let me ask you a question ; If you were a Kurd and you had the option to choose whether you gonna fight the Turk or fight the Greek , which one would you choose ?
    Irrelevant question, the Kurds do not even need to fight you, they shall outbreed you in one generation:

    http://www.ibtimes.com/kurdish-major...eration-705466

    A Kurdish Majority In Turkey Within One Generation?

    ANALYSIS

    By Palash Ghosh @Gooch700 On



    Kurds in southeastern Turkey. Photo: Reuters
    Turkey is emerging as an economic superpower in the Eastern Mediterranean and Middle East with greater influence in regional politics. Promoting itself as a “model Muslim democracy,” and widely admired by other Middle Eastern nations, Turkey now faces a novel problem that Europe has long contended with: a falling birth rate.

    Since the 1990s, Turkey’s fertility rate has steadily declined, due to, among other factors, rising household incomes, expanded access to higher education for women and increased birth control practices.
    “The use of birth-control methods has increased in Turkey a lot, but that is not the only reason for the decline in population,” an obstetrician named Ka?an Kocatepe told Hürriyet Daily News, a Turkish newspaper.
    “Many women want to have a successful career. That’s why the maternity age has increased, as women have started giving birth to their first child in their 30s.”
    Indeed, Dr. ?smet Koç, a demographer at Hacettepe University in Ankara, warned that Turkey's fertility rate is now below 2.1, the replacement level, which suggests the population will eventually decline.
    The fertility level in more prosperous western Turkey is now about 1.5 -- roughly the same as in western Europe.
    The number of children produced by the average Turkish woman has plunged to two from three over just the past two decades, coincident with Turkey's rise as an economic power.
    But there is a wrinkle to this whole phenomenon.
    The Kurdish community of Turkey, which currently represents at least 15 percent of the population and dominates the southeastern region, has such a high birth rate, that some observers – most prominently Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan -- believe Kurds could become a majority in Turkey within two generations.

    The proposed scenario is somewhat similar to the Palestinian situation in Israel, where Arabs could become the dominant ethnic group in the 'Jewish State' within 30 years or so; or the southwestern United States, where Hispanics and Mexican-Americans are likely to become the majority within a few decades.
    According to Turkish government statistics, the average Kurdish woman in Turkey gives birth to about four children, more than double the rate for other Turkish mothers.
    Thus, Turkey is facing a demographic time-bomb – Kurds, who tend to be concentrated in the country's impoverished southeast and are generally poorer and less educated, could conceivably outnumber Turks within about 30 years should present patterns persist.

    Erdogan seems to be certain this will happen.

    If we continue the existing trend, [the year] 2038 will mark disaster for us, Erdogan warned in May 2010.
    The prime minister, who has repeatedly called on Turkish couples to have three children and even suggested financially rewarding such fecundity, once declared: “Our population is getting older. Right now we are proud of our young population, but if we don’t pull these numbers up, Turkey will be in a difficult position by 2038.”

    Some Turkish academics scoff at Erdogan's solutions as unrealistic.
    Cem Behar, an economics professor at Istanbul’s Bo?azici University, told the Hürriyet Daily News & Economic Review: “It’s clear that Turkey is going to face a decline in the growth rate of its population. Yet you cannot address such an issue by telling people to have more children.”

    Behar added: “There is no family policy in Turkey. And I don’t think anyone is going to have more children just because [Erdo?an] told them to do so. If the government really wants to promote having more children, it needs to prepare the necessary conditions for it, such as lowering taxes for those families or strengthening pre-school education.”
    A rapidly rising Kurdish population would pose sharp problems and challenges for the Turkish state and society.
    Kurds have long faced discrimination, deprivation, even state-sponsored violence, throughout their long and epic residence in Turkey. As such, many Kurds seek a separate homeland, or at the least, autonomous self-rule in the southeast.
    Kurds represent a dominant and highly contentious theme in Turkish politics.

    For many years, it was, in fact, illegal for Kurds to speak their own language, use Kurdish names, play Kurdish music, etc. – part of a comprehensive attempt by Ankara to wipe out the separate ethnic identity of the Kurds. Indeed, some Turks regarded Kurds simply as 'Mountain Turks.'
    The Kurdish Workers Party (PKK), a Marxist militant movement which Turkey, the European Union and the U.S. brand as a terrorist group, has fought for a separatist nation for decades. The PKK's periodic conflicts with the Turkish military have cost tens of thousands of lives on both sides – seemingly with no resolution in sight.

    Of course, many, perhaps most, Kurds in Turkey do not support the PKK and seek to assimilate with mainstream Turkish society – while retaining their distinct Kurdish culture, language and customs.
    Now, with the Kurds having more babies than the Turks, will Kurds really become a majority in a country where they have long suffered abuse and deprivation? And if that were to happen, how would that affect the Kurds' status in Turkey?
    International Business Times spoke with an expert on Turkey and demographics to explore this topic.
    Dr. Tino Sanandaji is a PhD in Public Policy at the University of Chicago who does research on demographic change and its link to policy.

    IB TIMES: Is the overall fertility rate in Turkey declining because the country is becoming wealthier, household incomes are rising and more women are using birth control methods?
    SANANDAJI: Yes, sooner or later this happens in all industrialized countries -- parents prefer to have fewer children and invest more time and resources on them rather than having a large family.
    IB TIMES: The birth rate for Kurds is more than double that of Turks. Is this due to the fact that Kurds are generally poorer and less educated?
    SANANDAJI: Poorer, less educated and more rural. However, other factors should not be ruled out since low-income Kurdish women also have higher birth rates than low-income Turkish women.

    IB TIMES: Prime Minister Erdogan warned that Kurds could become a majority in Turkey by 2038. Is this a realistic prediction?
    SANANDAJI: No, that is impossible. Demographic change is a slow process even when birth rates differ sharply, because so many generations are already born and will be around for decades.
    In the 1930s, the Kurds constituted about 9 percent of the population of Turkey, and though they had higher birth rates than the Turks it still took until the 1990s until they reached the 18 percent level.
    Since it takes a long time, underlying forces can change in the meanwhile. Therefore, we should be careful about extrapolating current trends into the future. Nor can demographic trends be dismissed using the equally silly argument that since demographic predictions were sometimes wrong in the past, all predictions are always wrong in the future. Plenty of predictions turned out to be accurate.
    This is a sensitive topic to some. When people read that the population share of their “tribe” is shrinking there is often a primal psychological response of fear, anger or denial, and wide exaggerations in both directions.
    IB TIMES: In the event Kurds become a majority in Turkey, will that render the Kurdish nationalist and separatist movements irrelevant and moot?
    SANANDAJI: If history is any guide, that development would raise tensions with the Kurdish separatist movement, because they will be more likely to win a democratic or military struggle once they are the majority population.
    IB TIMES: If the Kurds are becoming more assimilated, why is this even a problem? If the Ankara government does not even classify Kurds as a separate ethnic group, why would they even care about their higher birth rates?

    SANANDAJI: If Kurds are slowly assimilating but growing their population share rapidly, the net effect might still be more voters with an ethnic Kurdish identity. Once Kurds realize time is working on their side, they might become less willing to abandon their national identity, anticipating that if they hold on long enough their sheer numbers will change the balance of power.
    If the rate of assimilation into a national Turkish identity is sufficiently rapid, Turkey will not necessarily break apart. But Turkey will likely be a different country in many other ways if Kurds become the majority.
    IB TIMES: What, if anything, is the Turkish government doing to prevent these demographic trends?
    SANANDAJI: One choice is to try to stabilize the Turkish birth rate, though no country I am aware of has successfully done this in modern times.
    A second alternative for the government is to convince the Kurds in Turkey to accept the Turkish national identity, making the population issue less important.
    Another option is to lower the Kurdish birth rate by promoting economic development, education and women’s' health in Kurdish areas.
    But if current trends continue for generations, Turks might eventually reach a point when they must reluctantly decide between keeping a smaller Turkish nation state or risk becoming the minority population in a Kurdish-majority Turkey.



    Muslim Kurds shall settle around Athens and administer the Mosque of Athens sooner than you think .
    Keep masturbating, most of the Kurds in Greece hate your guts.

    Limp wristed Yunanli , take your thumb downs and collectively shove'em all up to where the sun don't shine ; if you have any difficulties , ask an Albanian for a hand .
    I don't ask favors from Koko the Gorilla.

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