Pro Macedonian Discussion

[brennus dux gallorum]

yes there is a difference between northern greece and southern greece and i have refuted your original claim. stop carrying on now before i post more pics to further refute your claims.

The only difference between Southern and northern Greece is the ottoman impact in Northern Greece, which doesn't make sense, as long as the ottomans were there for much more time (like in fyrom) and continuously, in contrast to Southern European influence in Southern Greece for similar reasons.

you have refuted my claim?I posted one of the biggest cities in the region, you posted a village,such great argument.



I love that map, Konichiwa, Paionian

[MegaArgus1]

We who feel Macedonians may overcome the difficulties imposed by the politicians from all parties involved in resolving the Macedonian enigma.
The start is promising.

[brennus dux gallorum]

We who feel Macedonians may overcome the difficulties imposed by the politicians from all parties involved in resolving the Macedonian enigma.
The start is promising.

megaargus, have you ever been an SF member?

[MegaArgus1]

megaargus, have you ever been an SF member?

Turn over a new leaf

[Crn Volk]

brennus, have you ever been a member of Slavorum?

[Crn Volk]

We who feel Macedonians may overcome the difficulties imposed by the politicians from all parties involved in resolving the Macedonian enigma.
The start is promising.

Yes, predictions of our demise have been circling for decades...we're still here

[Crn Volk]

The only difference between Southern and northern Greece is the ottoman impact in Northern Greece, which doesn't make sense, as long as the ottomans were there for much more time (like in fyrom) and continuously, in contrast to Southern European influence in Southern Greece for similar reasons.

you have refuted my claim?I posted one of the biggest cities in the region, you posted a village,such great argument.



I love that map, Konichiwa, Paionian

0.5-1% is just noise. sorry to burst your bubble

[Armenian Bishop]

The Armenian military genius, General Andranik Ozanian, pledged his support for the Macedonian People, during the First Balkan War (1912-1913). His 273 Armenian Volunteers fought alongside the 3rd Brigade of the Macedonian-Adraianopolitan Militia. His entire unit was awarded the medal for the Order of Bravery (by Aleksandar Protogerov). General Andranik left the Balkans, in June, 1913, because his war was against the Turks of the Ottoman Empire, and he didn't want to get involved with disputes between Balkan People. He returned to the Armenian Highlands, during World War I, and commanded Armenian Units that fought against the Young Turks, during the war.

http://www.liquisearch.com/andranik_...rst_balkan_war

In Sofia Andranik met revolutionist Boris Sarafov and the two pledged themselves to work jointly for the oppressed peoples of Armenia and Macedonia. Andranik participated in the First Balkan War of 1912–1913, within the Bulgarian army, alongside Garegin Nzhdeh as a Chief Commander of 12th Battalion of Lozengrad Third Brigade of the Macedonian-Adrianopolitan militia under the command of Colonel Aleksandar Protogerov. His detachment consisted of 273 Armenian volunteers.

On October 20, 1912 the Bulgarian Second Army, composed of Macedonian-Adrianopolitan militia and Andranik's volunteer detachment, tight circle around Edirne and surrendered Yaver Pasha's forces. On November 4, 1912 the Macedonian-Adrianopolitan militia with the support of Andranik's volunteer detachment defeated numerically exceeding Turks near Momchilgrad. On January 6, 1913, in a small town church in Rodosto, Aleksandar Protogerov awarded all Armenian fighters for bravery. Andranik Ozanyan was honored with the Order of Bravery.

[Armenian Bishop]

Leon Trotsky commented about General Andranik Ozanian. He commended General Andranik, and his men, whom served with the Macedonian-Adrianopolitan Militia (during the Balkan War).

... at the head of the Armenian volunteer troops formed in Sofia stood Andranik, the hero of song and legend ... The Armenians were under his command, the Turks were afraid of him, Sultan's troops pursued his footsteps ... He's great in his dark gray khaki suit and high astrakhan hat and soldier boots, which sticks out from the whip, the symbol of informal power. On the side of his glasses and Browning on the chest - a whole bunch of tape with the words: "Freedom or Death", it is - a gift from Armenian women of the Committee of the Red Cross ..."I'm not a nationalist -he says in explanation of his campaign, I only recognize one nation: the nation of the oppressed.

In mid-June 1913, he retired to Galata, Varna, on the Black Sea, where he lived with his sister until 1914, the outbreak of World War I. Foreseeing war between Bulgaria and Serbia, Andranik disbanded his men, for he would only fight against the Turks. He retired to a village in Armenia, living there as a farmer until the World War I began.

[MegaArgus1]

Yes, predictions of our demise have been circling for decades...we're still here

Because the predictions are based on wishes not on solid facts.