Originally Posted by
Aemilius
The prevailing opinion of the academics is that the West borrowed some ideas from Rome which in turn borrowed ideas from Greece. That's it. The Greek "birth" of Western civilization is a Romantic phrase which does not explain well actual history - Charlemagne, France and Holy Roman Empire; they are the ones that gave birth to Western civilization. The proper Latin successors of the Roman Empire as the Eastern Roman Empire became a distant and culturally Eastern, Orthodox and Greek empire.
The ONLY time the Greeks had any influence in the West was when the Roman Empire was still unified, and the Greeks could travel to Italy, to Gaul, and so forth.
The Greeks lost that influence when the empire splintered, and the West continued to speak Latin while the East dropped Latin for Greek during Heraclius in the 7th century. The last time the Greeks had significantly influenced the West was in the 15th century, LONG after the founding of the Western civilization, during the Italian Renaissance when some scholars fled to Italy to escape the Ottoman Turks.
If you deny this, then please name all the peoples that had influence in the founding of Charlemagne's empire; the aftermath of his empire which led to the establishment of France and Holy Roman Empire? No Greeks participated in their creation.
I repeat this ad nauseum, no Greek man, woman or child contributed to the founding of Western civilization because the Germanic and Latin speakers founded the civilization, not Hellenic speakers who remained detached in Constantinople from the cultural developments and progress in France and Germany.
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