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    Default Argentine 23andme results and analysis -UPDATE WITH 168 RESULTS-

    Update of this thread

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    UPDATE WITH 168 RESULTS


    General Results



    Surnames, Ranges, Grandparents



    Caucasian Ranges



    Ancestry per origin of the surname



    Argentine grandparents




    Chart with 166 Results





    Chart depending on Mtdna






    Chart depending on surname origin


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    Very good info man.

    Some posters here were saying that most Argentinians were either full white, or balanced mestizos, with few harnizos and castizos in-between. However, I always had the idea that it had to be wrong, and that pred Euro Argentinians (harnizos and castizos) could be more common than balanced mestizos Argentinians. Now watching at the first table, it looks like I was right.
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    Regarding the rest, it looks like Italian and Spanish ancestry in Argentina are very even. Lol at the dummies who always say that Argentina is mostly Italian, and dismiss its Spanish heritage.


    Spanish ancestry is not only very pressent in Argentinean mestizos, harnizos and castizos, but it is also very even with Italian ancestry on the full white Argentinian population.
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    Muy bueno!
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    De qué parte de Argentina son mayormente las muestras?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Very good info man.

    Some posters here were saying that most Argentinians were either full white, or balanced mestizos, with few harnizos and castizos in-between. However, I always had the idea that it had to be wrong, and that pred Euro Argentinians (harnizos and castizos) could be more common than balanced mestizos Argentinians. Now watching at the first table, it looks like I was right.
    Well we have to take into consideration this is 23andme and will probably under represents the very poor argentines. Those argentines will be more mestizo and a minority of them even indomestizo

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Regarding the rest, it looks like Italian and Spanish ancestry in Argentina are very even. Lol at the dummies who always say that Argentina is mostly Italian, and dismiss its Spanish heritage.


    Spanish ancestry is not only very pressent in Argentinean mestizos, harnizos and castizos, but it is also very even with Italian ancestry on the full white Argentinian population.
    Well yes recent euro immigration was mainly italian and spanish (in similar numbers) so its understandable that there will be a lot of full spanish argentines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowdive View Post
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    De qué parte de Argentina son mayormente las muestras?
    Gracias che. La verdad hay de todo. Es complicado porque muchos listan varios lugares de ancestry (ponele buenos aires mendoza chaco) y cosas asi. Obviamente hay muchos de buenos aires que es donde vive el 50% de la poblacion pero hay de todos lados.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Very good info man.

    Some posters here were saying that most Argentinians were either full white, or balanced mestizos, with few harnizos and castizos in-between. However, I always had the idea that it had to be wrong, and that pred Euro Argentinians (harnizos and castizos) could be more common than balanced mestizos Argentinians. Now watching at the first table, it looks like I was right.
    Yes. Most Argentines, seem between full or near European/white and Euro mestizos (castizos and harnizos) in the mix. I had this idea, going by the common Argentine phenotypes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Regarding the rest, it looks like Italian and Spanish ancestry in Argentina are very even. Lol at the dummies who always say that Argentina is mostly Italian, and dismiss its Spanish heritage.


    Spanish ancestry is not only very pressent in Argentinean mestizos, harnizos and castizos, but it is also very even with Italian ancestry on the full white Argentinian population.
    Yeah indeed, the Spanish and Italian ancestry in Argentina are both as common from what we can see. Just a bit more Spanish heritage/ancestry people, slightly more. Among the pred Euro Argentinians or Euro mestizo(castizo-harnizo) Argies, are more Spanish ancestry.

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    I think one of the most interesting things of this analysis is how people in the 95-100% euro range are half italian half spanish (24.1 Italian 24.1 Spanish) but people in the 80-85% euro range are predominantely iberian (38.5 iberian vs 4.9 italian) . I think this clear difference is because the full euros have more recent euro blood and the castizos more colonial blood.

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