To people of mixed ethnicity or mixed race, how do you identify?

[JMack]

I'm ethno-nationalist, i think modern states are fake creations of the capitalist bourgeoisie, so my fidelity belongs to my ethnicity. I'm brazilian of most southern european background (three of my grandparents are of recent immigrant stock), but i think 'Brazil' like any other modern state is an artificial entity (on an certain way even ethnicities are cultural creations, but there is a more stronger base to some form of ethnic brotherhood that is there for centuries than in pure artificial creations of state-nationalists of XIXth century). I identify primarily as greek, since most of my ancestors come from Bovesia and other greek speaking minorities in Calabria. I also have Portuguese and Sicilian heritage, and some distant amerindian (less than 5%), but the core of my identity is the greek-calabrese one. But despite that, i believe in ethno-pluralism and think every culture in the world should be respected, and if the individuals want to maintain some aspects of it they shouldn't be harmed by political correctness and globalist organizations (like the EU or UN).

[Wanderer]

I'm ethno-nationalist, i think modern states are fake creations of the capitalist bourgeoisie, so my fidelity belongs to my ethnicity. I'm brazilian of most southern european background (three of my grandparents are of recent immigrant stock), but i think 'Brazil' like any other modern state is an artificial entity (on an certain way even ethnicities are cultural creations, but there is a more stronger base to some form of ethnic brotherhood that is there for centuries than in pure artificial creations of state-nationalists of XIXth century). I identify primarily as greek, since most of my ancestors come from Bovesia and other greek speaking minorities in Calabria. I also have Portuguese and Sicilian heritage, and some distant amerindian (less than 5%), but the core of my identity is the greek-calabrese one. But despite that, i believe in ethno-pluralism and think every culture in the world should be respected, and if the individuals want to maintain some aspects of it they shouldn't be harmed by political correctness and globalist organizations (like the EU or UN).

Good post, and I agree - except that I see the ethno-state as being naturally valuable.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Normally I don't think about my ethnicity
I am mixed race, but I identify more along the lines of my ethnic background though then my race; my ethnicity is full of mixed people anyways.
But I also Identify as an atheist. I don't hold my ethnicity as a plaquer of who I am though in real life. Its just something to tell of my heritage if people ask but I feel actual beliefs reflect closer to who you are.

[ЛыSSый]

there are a big identity butthurt in a place where i'm living, so it's possible to recognize "identity" from conversation only.

[Profileid]

As reflected in my profile info, I consider my ethnicity solely Ukrainian - that's what I've always identified with (quite close with that side of my family too, which is all-Ukrainian and of more recent immigrant extraction, & many of our ethnic traditions are retained amongst ourselves), & Ukrainian is my predominant ancestry, and I don't look atypical for a Ukrainian, but I have some Italian ancestry as well. It is pretty common in my part of the USA to be fully or partially Italian. I don't relate too much to this component of my ancestry, but it doesn't really bother me that it's present. I love Ukraine first & foremost. Insults to Ukraine I tend to take quite personally, and I've come to realize even just that is a pretty good indicator of ethnic identity. But it goes beyond just that. PCA-wise, I may look something like a Balkan Slav, I suppose. But naturally I lack the identity of one.

I guess I do have some vague sense of pride that Latin & Greek vocabulary has been so influential (and I guess perhaps this is an odd point of pride, but, hey, languages interest me) - not just through the spread of the Romance language family, but through English with its massive repertoire of Latin & Greek words. I know how Greek many of the portions of peninsular southern Italy that my ancestry comes from used to be, so I figure there's some ancient Greek in there as well. Plus, cuisine is an obvious point of pride. Incredibly popular the world-over. Having some ancestry from Naples, I can say, in a sense, I feel I have a certain unique claim to pizza that others don't have, even many Italians.

I think these points of pride are valid. Many people seem to take pride in some aspect of their ancestry that doesn't define their ethnic identity - e.g., Slavs who take pride in the Sarmatian connection. I'm sure many Italians, too, see the Greeks in a similar way, but don't have a Greek ethnic identity.

So you're as mixed as anyone else? haha

[Wanderer]

So you're as mixed as anyone else? haha

Well, you might think so at first glance, I guess. It's a bit complicated to explain. You might consider someone who has a dozen different identifiable ancestries, for example, very mixed. But it's all about proportions, and also how recent the immigrant connection is. Having a dozen other ancestries may not be really noteworthy in terms of ethnic identity if one clearly predominates, such as what may happen if one parent is solely of that ancestry, and an immigrant him or herself, or a child of immigrants, etc.

[Wanderer]

Moreover, someone who's straight-up mixed between x & y (one parent representing each) may well be more mixed when it comes to natural ethnic self-identity. This is particularly true in diaspora communities, because in the Old World, identity would naturally be shaped more by the culture you're raised in. I don't feel that's true for me because my Ukrainianness definitely predominates. I could never feel more empathy & kinship for any other ethnicity than I do for Ukrainians, even if I wanted to.

There's definitely a difference between merely having some of the ancestry of one group and feeling ethnic kinship with them. For many Americans who have multiple ancestries, none of which truly predominate, and all of which are too distantly removed from the source (i.e., no recent immigrant history in the family tree), then perhaps they would have little to no ethnic kinship with any of those ancestries. Maybe at that point, such a person would feel more American than anything else. But I don't know, because this isn't something I can relate to (nor can someone to whom it applies naturally relate to me). American can be at least a semi-ethnicity, though the attributes of this category would be quite different from what you encounter in Europe. There's unquestionably at least a bit of fluidity inherent in the concept of ethnicity - but it is still highly practical and cannot be disregarded as a real world factor.

[Greensboro Jock]

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[Spyy]

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i wrong the thread :x

[Tobi]

I'm ethno-nationalist, i think modern states are fake creations of the capitalist bourgeoisie, so my fidelity belongs to my ethnicity. I'm brazilian of most southern european background (three of my grandparents are of recent immigrant stock), but i think 'Brazil' like any other modern state is an artificial entity (on an certain way even ethnicities are cultural creations, but there is a more stronger base to some form of ethnic brotherhood that is there for centuries than in pure artificial creations of state-nationalists of XIXth century). I identify primarily as greek, since most of my ancestors come from Bovesia and other greek speaking minorities in Calabria. I also have Portuguese and Sicilian heritage, and some distant amerindian (less than 5%), but the core of my identity is the greek-calabrese one. But despite that, i believe in ethno-pluralism and think every culture in the world should be respected, and if the individuals want to maintain some aspects of it they shouldn't be harmed by political correctness and globalist organizations (like the EU or UN).

Are you serious? How much greek are you?
I'm 6/8 portuguese and I don't identify myself as portuguese first, because I was born and raised in Brazil.