What is your definition of "white"?

[JamesBond007]

EEF is part Near Eastern, and obviously Iran_N, whether or not IEs had significant CHG admixture. Levant_N, Anatolia_N, Iran_N, EHG are not pure races.

Most Europeans qualify, it's not as exclusive as you think, like I said for the WHG/ANE/Basal Eurasian model I'm basing it off the Basal-Rich K7 calc(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=2002805772), and "whiteness" would start at Basques and Slovenians(both around 65%), even though Basques phenotypically are not radically different from other Spaniards. In the east, groups like Mari, Udmurts, Chuvash, Tatars, etc don't make the cut, but Erzya do, which makes sense phenotypically. Funnily enough all those groups are geographically European and have been so for a very long time but people who think EEF is fully European usually don't consider them "white".

The Bell Beaker model is this:

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Bell_Beaker_NLD,0.1284778,0.1228792,0.0626964,0.07 32402,0.024543,0.0242984,0.0004994,0.003346,-0.0082066,-0.0132576,-0.0051356,0.0029222,-0.0081208,-0.014588,0.0251934,0.0100105,-0.0060466,-0.0022011,0.0012412,0.0072378,0.005849,0.0026894,0 .0002158,0.0061454,-0.000464
AUT_LBK_N,0.1220754,0.1839379,0.015792,-0.0885424,0.0642426,-0.0428098,-0.0023206,-0.0037789,0.0449952,0.0860381,0.0079368,0.0105094,-0.0204036,0.0025289,-0.0382054,-0.0129606,0.0148475,0.0011245,0.0146436,-0.0096453,-0.006738,0.0098304,-0.0058542,-0.0064919,-0.0058527
Levant_Ashkelon_LBA,0.0921967,0.1462363,-0.061722,-0.0915167,-0.0139513,-0.0366277,0.0032117,-0.008846,0.0072263,0.012635,0.015535,-0.015736,0.018781,0.0088997,-0.0078717,0.008972,-0.0043027,0.0013093,-0.0006287,-0.0070033,0.0020797,0.000371,-0.00608,0.002812,0.003832
MAR_Taforalt,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0162197,-0.4440402,0.0722185,-0.0511148,-0.0373912,-0.0395328,0.0034075,0.0084802,0.0064935,0.019408,-0.048595,-0.004833,-0.0030848,0.0086702,-0.0096025,-0.0133915,-0.0007825,0.0089,0.0174408,0.0100362,0.008828,-0.027729,-0.0174702,-0.00244,-0.0145795

The populations included are basically the same, except it goes down to include Croats, and Tatars, Udmurts, etc in the east and it has much higher "white" percentages, up to 90-99% instead of 75%, also it disincludes Basques and many French groups, so the Villabruna-related system is probably more accurate, and Bell Beaker isn't fully European anyway(but atleast is the main ancestry of a lot of groups, from very long ago), so anything dealing with late Paleolithic/mesolithic ancestries will always be better, but I don't mind considering Bell Beakers/CW/Fatyanovo the "core" of whiteness either, it atleast makes a bit of sense unlike anything geographic Europe = white.

Some examples:

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Target: Bulgarian
Distance: 3.2858% / 0.03285765
56.4 Bell_Beaker_NLD
21.4 AUT_LBK_N
21.2 Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
1.0 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Croatian
Distance: 4.0634% / 0.04063398
74.6 Bell_Beaker_NLD
19.0 AUT_LBK_N
6.0 Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
0.4 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Basque_Spanish
Distance: 4.7041% / 0.04704056
57.8 Bell_Beaker_NLD
42.2 AUT_LBK_N

Target: Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Distance: 1.9710% / 0.01970960
54.0 Bell_Beaker_NLD
42.4 AUT_LBK_N
3.6 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 1.2854% / 0.01285435
70.0 Bell_Beaker_NLD
29.6 AUT_LBK_N
0.4 Levant_Ashkelon_LBA

Target: Italian_Campania
Distance: 1.7899% / 0.01789899
46.4 Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
29.6 Bell_Beaker_NLD
23.8 AUT_LBK_N
0.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Italian_Bergamo
Distance: 1.4601% / 0.01460090
49.8 Bell_Beaker_NLD
39.6 AUT_LBK_N
10.6 Levant_Ashkelon_LBA

Target: German
Distance: 1.8810% / 0.01880976
80.0 Bell_Beaker_NLD
20.0 AUT_LBK_N

Target: French_Brittany
Distance: 1.8967% / 0.01896737
79.8 Bell_Beaker_NLD
20.2 AUT_LBK_N

Target: French_Paris
Distance: 1.8379% / 0.01837945
71.0 Bell_Beaker_NLD
29.0 AUT_LBK_N

Target: English
Distance: 2.2145% / 0.02214456
83.0 Bell_Beaker_NLD
17.0 AUT_LBK_N

A model on G25 of Villabruna, Tarofalt, and Devil's Gate_N(yes, all Europeans have East Asian admixture via ANE, which is also why you can even see very Mongoloid influenced types in Ireland, Austria, etc) creates similar results to my Basal-Rich K7 method, but it's a bit weird using Tarofalt since they have SSA(albeit very, very ancient SSA), although to be completely honest it's looking kind of likely this "Basal Eurasian" could just wind up being Ust-Ishim/Bacho-Kiro(which is actually what Basal Eurasian is, aka, ancestral to all Eurasians except a small part of the ancestry in West Eurasia)+a secondary OoA, more proto-SSA related group, rather than just a different group of Eurasians. Need actual genomes from paleolithic Arabia/Egypt/Levant to know forsure.

Awesome thanks !

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.9048% / 0.02904809
85.4 Bell_Beaker_NLD
14.0 AUT_LBK_N
0.6 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

^ I scored under 3 which I guess is good and I scored 85.4 Beaker which I guess is sufficient or more than sufficient.

[Defcon2]

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 3.2990% / 0.03299013
86.6 Bell_Beaker_NLD
13.4 AUT_LBK_N

^This

You're 36% whiter than me, amazing. I don't regret wearing this avatar.

What is the reason I get more Mongolian DNA than you, guys?

[Redmar]

Cro-Magnon casper the ghost looking. Anything slightly off is woggish

[Jaromir]

Cro-Magnon casper the ghost looking. Anything slightly off is woggish

this

[RyoHazuki]

Someone who is caucasoid from the Americas.

[Chocolate_Hound]

Its all about phenotype to me. That's all that matters in the real world. If you look white then you're white. If you don't look white then you're not white to me. I don't care where you're from.

If someone looks predominantly white then i'll see them as pretty much white but not white.

The real world is not America. Skin color means jackshit in other countries. Erdogan is physically paler than many Greeks yet he is a far bigger cultural threat to Europe than any Greek will ever be.

[Chocolate_Hound]

my definition of a white women

someone who ages very badly
someone with no ass
someone with veiny arms/feet
someone with no rhythm

Seems like "white" is more a cultural term in the US. Spaniard women who look very MENA wouldn't be considered white in America

[Arūnas]

north of Pyrenees

[Corporate_Demolisher]

White is a mentality, not a skin color. The only true whites are Protestant Germanic-speaking countries, like the UK, Germany and Scandinavia. These nations are the epitome of whiteness, and are highly advanced, wealthy, and "civilized".

Slavs on the other hand are fair-skinned but that does not make them white. As a political term, "white" should only refer to Western industrialized nations.

[Sam Ryan]

I suppose it is someone who has only European ancestry. I wonder how the average admixtures of countries will change over the next 100 years and if the definitions of race will change with it.
How many more African immigrants will be needed in the Scandinavian countries before their situation will be like the American one?
Also, more people are able to travel quickly and cheaply now.