Turkish Autosomal DNA - West, Central and East Anatolian Turks

[Charles Bronson]

1/2 Kurd 1/2 Turk from Kahramanmaraş/Pazarcık

Interesting, if both parents were Turks, he would still have a low eurasian-score.

[Danishmend]

Interesting, if both parents were Turks, he would still have a low eurasian-score.

He has 4-5% East Eurasian admixture, which is normal for a half Turk. Eastern Turks have less East Eurasian admix on average than Western Turks who usually score 10-15%.

[Charles Bronson]

He has 4-5% East Eurasian admixture, which is normal for a half Turk. Eastern Turks have less East Eurasian admix on average than Western Turks.

My Eurasian-Score is pretty high, for a Eastern-Turk.


I remember the highest score from Turkey is in Aydin.

[Danishmend]

My Eurasian-Score is pretty high, for a Eastern-Turk.


I remember the highest score from Turkey is in Aydin.

On the spreadsheets "Turkish_Aydin" average has the highest score, but there are individual results from FTDNA/23andme that have 18%. From what I have seen so far east eurasian admixture peaks in Southwest Anatolia (Yörüks) and Giresun/Black Sea (Çepni tribe).


This Turk is from Giresun for example (18% East Eurasian), he even seems to be closer to Yunusbayev's Turkmenistan samples than to Turkish average on Dodecad k12b, Oghuz stronk in this guy.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.06
2 Gedrosia 17.28
3 North_European 10.78
4 Atlantic_Med 10.47
5 East_Asian 9.18
6 Siberian 8.55
7 Southwest_Asian 8.38
8 South_Asian 1.30

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkmens @ 14.340544
2 Turks @ 14.924147
3 Turkish @ 15.741427
4 Nogais @ 16.037533
5 Kumyks @ 18.820946
6 Iranian @ 18.896080
7 Kurd @ 19.150503
8 Kurds @ 19.978415
9 Iranians @ 20.902374
10 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 20.911524
11 Lebanese @ 23.661419
12 Ashkenazy_Jews @ 25.120924
13 Georgia_Jews @ 25.632238
14 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 25.897491
15 Syrians @ 25.924549
16 Sephardic_Jews @ 26.133312
17 Ashkenazi @ 26.158644
18 Assyrian @ 26.419413
19 S_Italian_Sicilian @ 26.521133
20 Tajiks @ 26.560286


CHG K10
# Population Percent
1 CHG 35.69
2 Anatolian_Farmers 15.82
3 E_Asian 15.52
4 WHG 10.96
5 SW_Asian 10.92
6 EHG 6.46
7 S_Indian 3.20
8 Amerindian 1.24

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:

1 Turkish @ 10.676285
2 Azeri @ 15.171642
3 Kumyk @ 16.050533
4 Turkmen @ 16.118856
5 Tajik @ 16.352169
6 Uzbek_Afghan @ 17.833771
7 Adygei @ 18.110559
8 Turkmen_Afghan @ 18.554653
9 Tajik_Afghan @ 19.153833
10 Chechen @ 19.701227
11 Iranian @ 20.168293
12 Azeri_Dagestan @ 20.738377
13 Kurd_N @ 21.059706
14 Kurd_C @ 21.912727
15 Lezgin @ 22.502544
16 Kurd_E @ 23.118759
17 Armenian @ 23.260509
18 Georgian_Jew @ 23.334387
19 Hazara_Afghan @ 23.343536
20 Lebanese @ 23.940285

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turkish +50% Turkmen @ 3.319750

[Charles Bronson]

On the spreadsheets "Turkish_Aydin" average has the highest score, but there are individual results from FTDNA/23andme that have 18%. From what I have seen so far east eurasian admixture peaks in Southwest Anatolia (Yörüks) and Giresun/Black Sea (Çepni tribe).


This Turk is from Giresun for example (18% East Eurasian), he even seems to be closer to Yunusbayev's Turkmenistan samples than to Turkish average on Dodecad k12b, Oghuz stronk in this guy.

You are from Istanbul, and I think you are a half Crimean-Tatar or a full.

Did you do a DNA test?

[Danishmend]

You are from Istanbul, and I think you are a half Crimean-Tatar or a full.

Did you do a DNA test?

I'm not from Istanbul. 1/2 Central Anatolian Turk 1/2 Crimean Tatar here.

Nope, not yet.

[Charles Bronson]

I'm not from Istanbul. 1/2 Central Anatolian Turk 1/2 Crimean Tatar here.

Nope, not yet.

Khazar?

[Konpirike]

1/2 Kurd 1/2 Turk from Kahramanmaraş/Pazarcık


MDLP K23b
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.08
2 South_Central_Asian 23.08
3 European_Early_Farmers 10.51
4 Near_East 9.69
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 4.16
6 Ancestral_Altaic 3.70
7 North_African 2.22
8 South_Indian 1.83
9 Tungus-Altaic 1.76
10 Austronesian 1.24
11 East_Siberian 1.23
12 Amerindian 1.07

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kurd_North @ 5.595399
2 Azeri @ 5.954505
3 Kurd_South @ 7.129906
4 Kurd_East @ 7.751611
5 Turk_Adana @ 7.801487
6 Kurd @ 8.147782
7 Uzbek_Tashkent @ 8.412601
8 Turk_Kayseri @ 8.651460
9 Turk @ 9.891002
10 Baku_WGA @ 9.917152
11 Uzbekistani_Jew @ 10.242019
12 Georgian_Jew @ 11.103644
13 Assyrian_Iraqi @ 12.114095
14 Iraqi_Chaldean @ 12.395110
15 Iranian @ 12.805225
16 Azeri_Dagestan @ 13.095366
17 Kurd_Jew @ 13.165466
18 Turk_Istanbul @ 13.272242
19 Iraqi_Mandean @ 13.350400
20 Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 13.882825

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurd_South +50% Turk_Kayseri @ 4.136648


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Harappa-World
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.83
2 Baloch 23.40
3 SW-Asian 12.34
4 Mediterranean 9.40
5 NE-Euro 7.95
6 Siberian 2.88
7 NE-Asian 1.82
8 S-Indian 1.38

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 turkish @ 5.764422
2 kurd @ 5.917320
3 iranian @ 6.961287
4 kurd @ 7.580801
5 azeri @ 7.760141
6 kurd @ 8.544143
7 iranian @ 8.754938
8 armenian @ 9.673327
9 turk-kayseri @ 9.724580
10 uzbekistan-jew @ 9.979403
11 turk @ 10.202403
12 turk-istanbul @ 10.272656
13 iraqi-arab @ 13.296563
14 north-ossetian @ 14.133682
15 assyrian @ 14.942032
16 turk-aydin @ 15.277298
17 iraqi-mandaean @ 15.420327
18 kumyk @ 15.784470
19 turkmen @ 16.342701
20 iranian-jew @ 16.391590

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% iranian +50% turk-istanbul @ 3.399316

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% kurd +25% kurd +25% turk-aydin @ 2.488810


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Dodecad k12b
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.35
2 Gedrosia 23.46
3 Southwest_Asian 13.26
4 Atlantic_Med 9.86
5 North_European 7.76
6 Siberian 3.29
7 Northwest_African 1.46
8 East_Asian 1.16

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kurd @ 7.803437
2 Iranian @ 8.408259
3 Kurds @ 8.454720
4 Iranians @ 10.122852
5 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 11.287041
6 Turks @ 12.515256
7 Turkish @ 14.583153
8 Turkmens @ 15.728647
9 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 17.945290
10 Lebanese @ 18.085571
11 Georgia_Jews @ 18.171579
12 Iranian_Jews @ 18.183741
13 Assyrian @ 18.491699
14 Iraq_Jews @ 18.950994
15 Kumyks @ 19.193964
16 Armenians_15 @ 20.058491
17 Syrians @ 20.245169
18 Armenian @ 20.640882
19 Jordanians @ 22.496075
20 Druze @ 22.940786

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranians +50% Turks @ 5.167966

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurds +25% Sephardic_Jews +25% Turkmens @ 2.425008


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Eurogenes k13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 35.51
2 East_Med 30.47
3 South_Asian 7.36
4 North_Atlantic 7.22
5 West_Med 6.17
6 Baltic 4.18
7 Red_Sea 3.97
8 Siberian 2.57
9 East_Asian 1.09

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Azeri @ 3.560387
2 Kurdish @ 6.643169
3 Iranian @ 7.994103
4 Turkish @ 8.688003
5 Armenian @ 11.525566
6 Georgian_Jewish @ 12.163816
7 Assyrian @ 13.933495
8 Turkmen @ 15.890037
9 Iranian_Jewish @ 16.207766
10 Kumyk @ 16.542269
11 Kurdish_Jewish @ 17.144024
12 Lebanese_Muslim @ 19.956636
13 Adygei @ 20.293047
14 Georgian @ 20.441536
15 Syrian @ 21.242437
16 Balkar @ 21.343554
17 Abhkasian @ 22.242811
18 Ossetian @ 22.396023
19 Kabardin @ 22.738619
20 North_Ossetian @ 23.101778

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azeri +50% Azeri @ 3.560387

If this guys kurdish ancestry is from Maras, then he is probably not Kurdish but rather a Kurmonc.
Here are two other results from people of fully Kurmonc ancestry from Maras.

Kurmonc from Maras 1 (Dodecad K12b):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.08
2 Gedrosia 23.69
3 Southwest_Asian 12.36
4 North_European 10.03
5 Atlantic_Med 7.18
6 East_Asian 1.82
7 Siberian 1.62
8 South_Asian 1.08
9 East_African 0.15


Kurmonc from Maras 2 (Dodecad k12b):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 41.03
2 Gedrosia 20.65
3 Southwest_Asian 12.7
4 Atlantic_Med 10.15
5 North_European 8.16
6 East_Asian 3.82
7 South_Asian 1.71
8 Siberian 1.12
9 East_African 0.34
10 Sub_Saharan 0.21
11 Southeast_Asian 0.09

[Hadouken]

the half kurd half turk example from maras is very similar to me genetically

[gültekin]

If this guys kurdish ancestry is from Maras, then he is probably not Kurdish but rather a Kurmonc.

what, Kurmonc's are the Kurds in Turkey, why they shouldn't ?