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    Regarding the distance of Brits and Bulgarians to Portuguese, i'd say they're more or less equidistant:



    Early gedmatch runs didn't have Bulgarians but we can see it by looking at populations who plot close, such as Romanians:

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 PT @ 4.097334
    2 ES @ 5.321125
    3 North_Italian @ 8.351245
    4 FR @ 8.869403
    5 Tuscan @ 14.608764
    6 AT @ 17.288942
    7 Cornish @ 18.835646
    8 West_&_Central_German @ 19.063231
    9 NL @ 19.573862
    10 RO @ 19.757448
    11 Serbian @ 19.801012
    12 English @ 20.236576
    13 HU @ 20.898699
    14 French_Basque @ 21.568357
    15 Orcadian @ 22.023098
    16 IE @ 22.150290
    17 Scottish @ 23.251104
    18 DK @ 23.770628
    19 NO @ 25.892271
    20 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 26.324512
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    The above table is not from Cavalli-Sforza, my mistake, it is from this study.

    European Population Genetic Substructure: Further Definition of Ancestry Informative Markers for Distinguishing among Diverse European Ethnic Groups

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...9/?tool=pubmed

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    This one is interesting as it employs two countries seldom used in European genetic studies, the Netherlands and Norway. But the values for Italy - with South Italians being closer to other European populations than Northern Italy - looks wrong:FST 1.jpg (GR means Greece, and ES Spain. The rest is easy to figure out.)

    Britain vs. Scandinavia. Not a table but I don't think anyone will mind:FST 2.jpg

    Includes Ashkenazi Jews and Levantine Arabs: FST 5.jpg

    Belgium vs. a few selected countries: FST 6.jpg

    Sweden vs. some countries: FST 7.jpg (FRB = French Basques)

    A rare study with Austria, Switzerland, and the Baltic countries:FST 8.jpg

    A rare study with Portugal, Switzerland, and the former Yugoslavia:FST 9.jpg

    More:FST 3.jpg
    FST 4.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafe View Post
    This one is interesting as it employs two countries seldom used in European genetic studies, the Netherlands and Norway. But the values for Italy - with South Italians being closer to other European populations than Northern Italy - looks wrong:FST 1.jpg

    Britain vs. Scandinavia. Not a table but I don't think anyone will mind:FST 2.jpg

    Includes Ashkenazi Jews and Levantine Arabs: FST 5.jpg

    Belgium vs. a few selected countries: FST 6.jpg

    A rare study with Austria, Switzerland, and the Baltic countries:FST 8.jpg

    A rare study with Portugal, Switzerland, and the former Yugoslavia:FST 9.jpg

    More:FST 3.jpg
    FST 4.jpg
    FST 7.jpg
    Source for the Britain vs Scandinavia chart?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Source for the Britain vs Scandinavia chart?
    Check Fig. S6 in the Supplementary materials: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6392/1028

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    A few of the recently posted charts' results in a more digestible form

    Irish Travellers Study

    England

    1. Scotland - 0.0004
    2. Germany - 0.0007
    3. France - 0.0008
    4. Wales - 0.0009
    5. Norway - 0.0010
    6. Ireland - 0.0014
    7. Orkney - 0.0016
    8. Spain - 0.0025
    9. Italy - 0.0041
    10. Finland - 0.0069

    Scotland

    1. England - 0.0004
    2. Wales - 0.0010
    3. Ireland - 0.0011
    4. Germany - 0.0012
    5. France - 0.0013
    6. Norway - 0.0015
    7. Orkney - 0.0017
    8. Spain - 0.0031
    9. Italy - 0.0050
    10. Finland - 0.0073

    Ireland

    1. Scotland - 0.0011
    2. England - 0.0014
    3. Wales - 0.0016
    4. France - 0.0022
    5. Germany - 0.0024
    6. Norway - 0.0025
    7. Orkney - 0.0025
    8. Spain - 0.0040
    9. Italy - 0.0061
    10. Finland - 0.0086

    Wales

    1. England - 0.0009
    2. Scotland - 0.0010
    3. Ireland - 0.0016
    4. France - 0.0017
    5. Germany - 0.0019
    6. Norway - 0.0021
    7. Orkney - 0.0023
    8. Spain - 0.0034
    9. Italy - 0.0053
    10. Finland - 0.0081

    France

    1. Spain - 0.0006
    2. Germany - 0.0007
    3. England - 0.0008
    4. Scotland - 0.0013
    5. Norway - 0.0017
    5. Wales - 0.0017
    7. Italy - 0.0019
    8. Ireland - 0.0022
    9. Orkney - 0.0026
    10. Finland - 0.0081

    Germany


    1. England - 0.0007
    1. France - 0.0007
    3. Norway - 0.0009
    4. Scotland - 0.0012
    5. Wales - 0.0019
    6. Ireland - 0.0024
    6. Orkney - 0.0024
    6. Spain - 0.0024
    9. Italy - 0.0035
    10. Finland - 0.0060

    Norway

    1. Germany - 0.0009
    2. England - 0.0010
    3. Scotland - 0.0015
    4. France - 0.0017
    5. Wales - 0.0021
    6. Orkney - 0.0022
    7. Ireland - 0.0025
    8. Spain - 0.0038
    9. Finland - 0.0055
    10. Italy - 0.0057

    Italy

    1. Spain - 0.0013
    2. France - 0.0019
    3. Germany - 0.0035
    4. England - 0.0041
    5. Scotland - 0.0050
    6. Wales - 0.0053
    7. Norway - 0.0057
    8. Ireland - 0.0061
    9. Orkney - 0.0063
    10. Finland - 0.0124

    Spain

    1. France - 0.0006
    2. Italy - 0.0013
    3. Germany - 0.0024
    4. England - 0.0025
    5. Scotland - 0.0031
    6. Wales - 0.0034
    7. Norway - 0.0038
    8. Ireland - 0.0040
    9. Orkney - 0.0044
    10. Finland - 0.0105

    Orkney

    1. England - 0.0016
    2. Scotland - 0.0017
    3. Norway - 0.0022
    4. Wales - 0.0023
    5. Germany - 0.0024
    6. Ireland - 0.0025
    7. France - 0.0026
    8. Spain - 0.0044
    9. Italy - 0.0063
    10. Finland - 0.0082

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    Northern European Study posted by Bellbeaking

    Australia

    1. UK - 1.03
    2. CEU - 1.27
    3. Ireland - 1.40
    4. Netherlands - 1.45
    5. Denmark - 1.56
    6. Sweden - 1.98
    7. Finland - 7.36

    CEU

    1. UK - 1.21
    2. Australia - 1.27
    3. Netherlands - 1.43
    4. Denmark - 1.46
    5. Sweden - 1.86
    6. Ireland - 1.92
    7. Finland - 7.37

    Denmark

    1. Sweden - 1.35
    2. Netherlands - 1.36
    3. UK - 1.45
    4. CEU - 1.46
    5. Australia - 1.56
    6. Ireland - 2.41
    7. Finland - 6.51

    Ireland

    1. Australia - 1.40
    2. UK - 1.55
    3. CEU - 1.92
    4. Netherlands - 2.31
    5. Denmark - 2.41
    6. Sweden - 2.81
    7. Finland - 8.21

    Netherlands

    1. UK - 1.34
    2. Denmark - 1.36
    3. CEU - 1.43
    4. Australia - 1.45
    5. Sweden - 1.82
    6. Ireland - 2.31
    7. Finland - 7.27

    Sweden

    1. Denmark - 1.35
    2. Netherlands - 1.82
    3. CEU - 1.86
    4. UK - 1.91
    5. Australia - 1.98
    6. Ireland - 2.81
    7. Finland - 5.37

    UK

    1. Australia - 1.03
    2. CEU - 1.21
    3. Netherlands - 1.34
    4. Denmark - 1.45
    5. Ireland - 1.55
    6. Sweden - 1.91
    7. Finland - 7.42

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    FST 9 posted by Rafe

    Poland

    1. Hungary - 0.1
    2. Germany - 0.8
    3. Netherlands - 1.3
    4. Belgium - 1.4
    5. UK - 1.7
    6. Swiss German - 1.9
    7. France - 2
    7. Swiss French - 2
    9. Yugoslavia - 2.4
    10. Ireland - 2.5
    11. Spain - 2.9
    12. Portugal - 2.9
    13. Italy - 4
    14. Sardinia CSCT - 9.6
    15. Sardinia Lanusei - 13.1

    Ireland

    1. UK - 0.3
    2. Netherlands - 0.8
    3. Belgium - 1
    4. Germany - 1.1
    5. France - 1.2
    6. Swiss French - 1.4
    7. Swiss German - 1.5
    8. Hungary - 2.2
    9. Poland - 2.5
    9. Spain - 2.5
    11. Portugal - 2.8
    12. Yugoslavia - 3.8
    13. Italy - 4.3
    14. Sardinia CSCT - 8.9
    15. Sardinia Lanusei - 11.8

    Netherlands

    1. Belgium - 0
    1. Germany - 0
    1. Swiss French - 0
    1. Swiss German - 0
    1. UK - 0
    6. France - 0.1
    7. Hungary - 0.6
    8. Ireland - 0.8
    8. Spain - 0.8
    10. Portugal - 0.9
    11. Poland - 1.3
    12. Italy - 2.2
    13. Yugoslavia - 2.2
    14. Sardinia CSCT - 7.2
    15. Sardinia Lanusei - 10.8

    UK

    1. Netherlands - 0
    2. Belgium - 0.3
    2. Germany - 0.3
    2. Ireland - 0.3
    5. France - 0.6
    6. Swiss French - 0.7
    6. Swiss German - 0.7
    8. Hungary - 1.3
    9. Poland - 1.7
    10. Spain - 2.2
    11. Portugal - 2.5
    12. Yugoslavia - 3.1
    13. Italy - 3.4
    14. Sardinia CSCT - 7.7
    15. Sardinia Lanusei - 10.2

    Germany

    1. Belgium - 0
    1. Netherlands - 0
    3. Swiss German - 0.3
    3. UK - 0.3
    5. Hungary - 0.4
    5. Swiss French - 0.4
    7. France - 0.5
    8. Poland - 0.8
    9. Ireland - 1.1
    10. Spain - 1.6
    11. Portugal - 1.9
    12. Yugoslavia - 2
    13. Italy - 2.6
    14. Sardinia CSCT - 7.7
    15. Sardinia Lanusei - 10

    Belgium

    1. Germany - 0
    1. Netherlands - 0
    3. France - 0.2
    4. UK - 0.3
    4. Swiss French - 0.3
    4. Swiss German - 0.3
    7. Hungary - 0.7
    8. Ireland - 1
    9. Spain - 1.1
    10. Portugal - 1.2
    11. Poland - 1.4
    12. Italy - 2.1
    12. Yugoslavia - 2.1
    14. Sardinia C - 6.5
    15. Sardinia L - 9.5

    Swiss German


    1. Netherlands - 0
    2. Swiss French - 0.1
    3. Belgium - 0.3
    3. Germany - 0.3
    5. France - 0.4
    6. Hungary - 0.7
    6. UK - 0.7
    8. Spain - 1.2
    9. Ireland - 1.5
    9. Portugal - 1.5
    11. Italy - 1.8
    12. Poland - 1.9
    12. Yugoslavia - 1.9
    14. Sardinia C - 5.8
    15. Sardinia L - 8.6

    Swiss French

    1. Netherlands - 0
    2. Swiss German - 0.1
    3. France - 0.2
    4. Belgium - 0.3
    5. Germany - 0.4
    6. UK - 0.7
    7. Hungary - 0.8
    8. Spain - 1.1
    9. Ireland - 1.4
    9. Portugal - 1.4
    11. Italy - 1.7
    12. Yugoslavia - 1.8
    13. Poland - 2
    14. Sardinia C - 5.4
    15. Sardinia L - 8

    France

    1. Netherlands - 0.1
    2. Belgium - 0.2
    2. Swiss French - 0.2
    4. Swiss German - 0.4
    5. Germany - 0.5
    6. UK - 0.6
    7. Spain - 0.7
    8. Hungary - 0.8
    9. Portugal - 0.9
    10. Ireland - 1.2
    11. Italy - 1.6
    12. Yugoslavia - 1.9
    13. Poland - 2
    14. Sardinia C - 5
    15. Sardinia L - 7.6

    Spain

    1. Portugal - 0.2
    2. France - 0.7
    3. Netherlands - 0.8
    4. Belgium - 1.1
    4. Hungary - 1.1
    4. Swiss French - 1.1
    7. Swiss German - 1.2
    8. Italy - 1.4
    9. Germany - 1.6
    10. Yugoslavia - 2.1
    11. U.K - 2.2
    12. Ireland - 2.5
    13. Poland - 2.9
    14. Sardinia C - 3.8
    15. Sardinia L - 6.4

    Italy

    1. Yugoslavia - 1.3
    2. Hungary - 1.4
    2. Spain - 1.4
    4. Portugal - 1.5
    5. France - 1.6
    6. Swiss French - 1.7
    7. Swiss German - 1.8
    8. Belgium - 2.1
    9. Netherlands - 2.2
    10. Germany - 2.6
    11. Sardinia C - 3.4
    11. UK - 3.4
    13. Poland - 4
    14. Ireland - 4.3
    15. Sardinia L - 6.1
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    This has dozens of interesting results, from both Europe and elsewhere, composed of pairs of neighboring countries: https://www.eva.mpg.de/documents/Nat...pl_2189436.pdf

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    Supplementary materials from this study contain a large table with FST distances between Europeans, MENAs, South Asians, East Asians, and Africans. It is to big to copy here, so here's a link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

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