Quit whitewashing Levantines

[Profileid]

Thats not what genetics says about muslim levantines

even when i exaggerate for comic effect,people still believe it

[Myanthropologies]

this one actually true

Levant populations today fall into two main groups: one sharing more genetic characteristics with modern-day Europeans and Central Asians, and the other with closer genetic affinities to other Middle Easterners and Africans. Finally, we identify a putative Levantine ancestral component that diverged from other Middle Easterners ∼23,700–15,500 years ago during the last glacial period, and diverged from Europeans ∼15,900–9,100 years ago between the last glacial warming and the start of the Neolithic
We reconstructed the genetic structure of the Levantines and found that a pre-Islamic expansion Levant was more genetically similar to Europeans than to Middle Easterners.

http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetic...l.pgen.1003316

Not it is not true and honestly bullshit. By Europeans they probably mean sicilians who don't count. First apparently the original egyptians were western europeans, then people say original armeninans were Europeans, original central asians were European, original Iranians were european, so where the fuck do the genetics of the modern people come from? Outer space? Lol. I highly doubt the modern MENA is just a giant pile of indians + arabs. It was siciliy that was more swarthy in the past, actually.

[Myanthropologies]

Thats not what genetics says about muslim levantines

Lebanese muslims are actually genetically closer to Europeans than Lebanese Christians are lol

[zhaoyun]

Man, this is trolling. Pretty sure OP is Levantine or part herself.

But anyways, no, Lebanese are not equivalent to Greeks or Italians. They are darker on the whole. But a sizable minority can certainly pass in Southern Europe.

I've been to the Levant, I know. At least 30-40% easily pass in Southern Europe.

[Seth MacFarlane]

I agree. Also stop whitewashing Jews as some sort of Italian group with a small amount of Levant admix as opposed to a Levantine group with some Roman and Turkic admixture.

Well it depends on which jewish group . ashkenazis are in no way whitewashed , they are white looking. People actually darkwash them and claim they all look super " semitic " when it isnt the case. Im not denying ashkenazi levant origin but if they are mostly levantine with only a small amount of euro then why do they cluster closer to south euros then to levantines on every dna result. They should atleast cluster closer to cypriots if that were the case but its not

[Seth MacFarlane]

First apparently the original egyptians were western europeans, then people say original armeninans were Europeans, original central asians were European, original Iranians were european, so where the fuck do the genetics of the modern people come from? Outer space? Lol. I highly doubt the modern MENA is just a giant pile of indians + arabs.

+1 !!! Lol this is seriously your best post ever .

[Journeyman26]

this one actually true

Levant populations today fall into two main groups: one sharing more genetic characteristics with modern-day Europeans and Central Asians, and the other with closer genetic affinities to other Middle Easterners and Africans. Finally, we identify a putative Levantine ancestral component that diverged from other Middle Easterners ∼23,700–15,500 years ago during the last glacial period, and diverged from Europeans ∼15,900–9,100 years ago between the last glacial warming and the start of the Neolithic
We reconstructed the genetic structure of the Levantines and found that a pre-Islamic expansion Levant was more genetically similar to Europeans than to Middle Easterners.

http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetic...l.pgen.1003316

don't you post your peer-reviewed article from a reputable journal here!.. Don't you know this thread is only for wild generalizations and citing poorly understood evidence!

[ariel]

Not it is not true and honestly bullshit. By Europeans they probably mean sicilians who don't count. First apparently the original egyptians were western europeans, then people say original armeninans were Europeans, original central asians were European, original Iranians were european, so where the fuck do the genetics of the modern people come from? Outer space? Lol. I highly doubt the modern MENA is just a giant pile of indians + arabs. It was siciliy that was more swarthy in the past, actually.

We found that this Levantine component is closer to the European component (dark green) (FST = 0.035) than to the Arabian Peninsula/East Africa component (light green) (FST = 0.046). Our estimates show that the Levantine and the Arabian Peninsula/East African components diverged ∼23,700-15,500 y.a., while the Levantine and European components diverged ∼15,900-9,100 y.a

http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetic...l.pgen.1003316

[Myanthropologies]

Well it depends on which jewish group . ashkenazis are in no way whitewashed , they are white looking. People actually darkwash them and claim they all look super " semitic " when it isnt the case. Im not denying ashkenazi levant origin but if they are mostly levantine with only a small amount of euro then why do they cluster closer to south euros then to levantines on every dna result. They should atleast cluster closer to cypriots if that were the case but its not

They only cluster with sicilians, and even, they overlap with sicilians 76% and Palestinians for the rest of the percentage. Sure they look white, but so does like every half European and half mena. I didn't consider Sicilians genetically "white," because they can be modeled as half saudi and half Romanian, but Sicilians are Europeans and nobody can ever say they are not. Their culure is foreign to the MENA. Jews could have been way way way way "whiter" for being in Europe for 2000 years, but they're still genetically related to their host population in the middle east than they are to 95% of Europeans, meaning they stayed together.

I do agree that Jews are dark washed though. I saw someone classify longbowman as "armenian" LOL.

[Myanthropologies]

We found that this Levantine component is closer to the European component (dark green) (FST = 0.035) than to the Arabian Peninsula/East Africa component (light green) (FST = 0.046). Our estimates show that the Levantine and the Arabian Peninsula/East African components diverged ∼23,700-15,500 y.a., while the Levantine and European components diverged ∼15,900-9,100 y.a

http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetic...l.pgen.1003316

Yes and they're still genetically closer to Greeks than to Saudis. The levant was always like the levant. You misread the study. Besides, they dont specify who "Europeans" are here, even though they clearly specified "Middle easterners" as "saudis/east Africans." Why tf are East Africans grouped with saudis?
Obviously a bs eurocentric study.

By using the logic they used for their study they could also say modern Levantines are closer to "Europeans" than to arabs and east Africans as well.