Paleo-Atlantid examples

[Zhulta]

So are Paleo Atlantids a more primal phenotype? Remnants of people before the indo european arrival?

[The Blade]

James Fay, a scientist/adventurer:

[Ülev]

^^ sorry, no

Fair skin, curly or wavy, sometimes straight, usually brown-black, occasionally red or blonde hair, eyes mixed. Tall, meso- sometimes macroskelic, meso- to endomorph, long arms.(...) with heavy brow ridges (...)

http://humanphenotypes.net/PaleoAtlantid.html

[The Blade]

^^ sorry, no


http://humanphenotypes.net/PaleoAtlantid.html

Whenever I read the idiotic description from humanphenotypes and particularly the ''blond or red hair'' part I start smiling sarcastically, given all of Lundman's examples I posted on previous pages were brown to dark-haired. Guy is also really robust.

[Ülev]

heavy brow ridges not detected

Spoiler!

[Aspirin]

East of Bosporus and Dardanelles

[Komintasavalta]

Whenever I read the idiotic description from humanphenotypes and particularly the ''blond or red hair'' part I start smiling sarcastically, given all of Lundman's examples I posted on previous pages were brown to dark-haired. Guy is also really robust.

Yeah but HPT also says that Lundman later united the Tydal type "with Irish types and Canarid in Paleo Atlantid (Lundman, 1951, 1988)" and that Paleo-Atlantid is "very similar to Coon's (1939) Brünn" (http://humanphenotypes.net/PaleoAtlantid.html). Canarid of course sometimes has light-colored hair.

In Lundman's book "Jordens folkstammar" (1969), he wrote that the Paleo-Atlantid type was "partially lighter" ("delvis ljusare") (https://books.google.com/books?redir...volume&q=paleo):



Lundman 1951 ("Dunkelgemischte cromagnide Typen aus Dalarne, Schweden") wrote that Paleo-Atlantids have intermediate pigmentation (https://www.jstor.org/stable/25753154?seq=5):

Dagegen ist die Ähnlichkeit zwischen „Tydalern“ und nordafrikanischen Cromagniden (so schön von Fischer und seinen Schülern abgebildet) offenbar außerordentlich groß, und schon in meinem Aufsatz in der „Ethnos“ 1949 führte ich sie (mit einigen anderen westeuropäischen Rassensplittern) zu einer paläatlantischen Rasse zusammen. Auch die jetzige intermediäre Pigmentierung dieser Rasse betrachtete ich dort wie auch hier als alt, was vom modernen vererbungswissenschaftlichen Standpunkt aus ja gar nicht schwierig zu denken ist.

Translation:

On the other hand, the resemblance between "Tydalers" and North African Cromagnids (so beautifully depicted by Fischer and his pupils) is evidently extraordinarily great, and I already included them in my essay in "Ethnos" in 1949 (with some other Western European racial subgroups). I also considered the current intermediate pigmentation of this breed to be old, both there and here, which is not difficult to think from a modern hereditary point of view.

[travv]

^^ sorry, no


http://humanphenotypes.net/PaleoAtlantid.html

He has strange name for Paleo-Atlantid.

Shouldn't a real paleo have a name like Hristo or Ahmet?

[The Blade]

Yeah but HPT also says that Lundman later united the Tydal type "with Irish types and Canarid in Paleo Atlantid (Lundman, 1951, 1988)" and that Paleo-Atlantid is "very similar to Coon's (1939) Brünn" (http://humanphenotypes.net/PaleoAtlantid.html). Canarid of course sometimes has light-colored hair.

In Lundman's book "Jordens folkstammar" (1969), he wrote that the Paleo-Atlantid type was "partially lighter" ("delvis ljusare") (https://books.google.com/books?redir...volume&q=paleo):



Lundman 1951 ("Dunkelgemischte cromagnide Typen aus Dalarne, Schweden") wrote that Paleo-Atlantids have intermediate pigmentation (https://www.jstor.org/stable/25753154?seq=5):

Dagegen ist die Ähnlichkeit zwischen „Tydalern“ und nordafrikanischen Cromagniden (so schön von Fischer und seinen Schülern abgebildet) offenbar außerordentlich groß, und schon in meinem Aufsatz in der „Ethnos“ 1949 führte ich sie (mit einigen anderen westeuropäischen Rassensplittern) zu einer paläatlantischen Rasse zusammen. Auch die jetzige intermediäre Pigmentierung dieser Rasse betrachtete ich dort wie auch hier als alt, was vom modernen vererbungswissenschaftlichen Standpunkt aus ja gar nicht schwierig zu denken ist.

Translation:

On the other hand, the resemblance between "Tydalers" and North African Cromagnids (so beautifully depicted by Fischer and his pupils) is evidently extraordinarily great, and I already included them in my essay in "Ethnos" in 1949 (with some other Western European racial subgroups). I also considered the current intermediate pigmentation of this breed to be old, both there and here, which is not difficult to think from a modern hereditary point of view.

And that's why we have a Brunn type which still diverges from Paleo Atlantid in terms of facial (and cranial) structure to a degree pretty often (not just pigmentation) and Paleo Atlantid proper. By the way, I didn't need the translation (I've studied German for 7 years).

[The Blade]

Wrestler Jeff Hardy: