First Bosniak Congress

[Bosniensis]

Bosnia was kingdom with majority of her population having distinct sectarian identity than their neighbors. It has roots in Middle Ages. You have all ingredients and also a recipe to build an ethno here. Not to mention Bosnia Eyalet of Ottomans. There is nothing as Muslim Serb or Catholic Serb. Serbia was Orthodox in history, Serbian kingdoms and despotates were Orthodox states. Muslim Serbs are marginal.

Serbia was Orthodox after 1100 A.D. But before that it was predominantly Catholic and Loyal to Rome.

Everyone knows that Serbs were catholics and had catholic rulers like Konstantin Bodin, Stefan Vojislav etc.. they even had Catholic Church.

But modern Serbs have tuned their identity only to that 1100 A.D. - 1400 A.D. history and they are blind to anything else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_...diocese_of_Bar

That is Serbian Catholic Archdiocese

[Moje ime]

Serbia was Orthodox after 1100 A.D. But before that it was predominantly Catholic and Loyal to Rome.

Everyone knows that Serbs were catholics and had catholic rulers like Konstantin Bodin, Stefan Vojislav etc.. they even had Catholic Church.

But modern Serbs have tuned their identity only to that 1100 A.D. - 1400 A.D. history and they are blind to anything else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_...diocese_of_Bar

That is Serbian Catholic Archdiocese

False. Serbia was alway loyal to Byzantine, not Rome. Link you posted is about Montenegro that had more connections with Rome in certain periods.

[Bosniensis]

False. Serbia was alway loyal to Byzantine, not Rome. Link you posted is about Montenegro that had more connections with Rome in certain periods.

Well I am Right, because in 7th century A.D Pope was Appointed by Byzantines therefore even Rome was Roman (false. Byzantine).

Full Catholic - Orthodox split happened 1054 when Pope fully denounced Roman influence in Rome. (Frankish Papacy usurped Roman Authority)

Stefan Vojislav was Catholic but as I said Catholics were loyal to Constantinople back then not Germans.

Some Serbs later remained loyal to Rome even though Rome went out of jurisdiction of Imperator Caesar (Basileos), those Serbs are assimilated into Croats, Montenegrins and Albanians.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Bosnia was kingdom with majority of her population having distinct sectarian identity than their neighbors. It has roots in Middle Ages. You have all ingredients and also a recipe to build an ethno here. Not to mention Bosnia Eyalet of Ottomans. There is nothing as Muslim Serb or Catholic Serb. Serbia was Orthodox in history, Serbian kingdoms and despotates were Orthodox states. Muslim Serbs are marginal.
Bosniaks aren't Serbs or Catholic since, they had a kingdom different than them and also a different religion. That's already enough to talk about differences.

Exactly this. Bosniensis think that people were "aware" of nation in 14th century. In middle ages, "Serb" mean almost all South Slavic people, but the really nationality didn't exist, which proves many different "Serbian" states in that time. It's just idea of Great Serbia.

[Bosniensis]

Exactly this. Bosniensis think that people were "aware" of nation in 14th century. In middle ages, "Serb" mean almost all South Slavic people, but the really nationality didn't exist, which proves many different "Serbian" states in that time. It's just idea of Great Serbia.

Well Truth is that Montenegro, Serbia, Bosnia, 60% of Croatia, Northern Albania, parts of Macedonia and Bulgaria are Serbs.

But Serbs do not understand the simple fact: Not all Serbs are members of Serbian Orthodox Church, there are Catholics, Muslims, Pagans etc..

[Moje ime]

Well Truth is that Montenegro, Serbia, Bosnia, 60% of Croatia, Northern Albania, parts of Macedonia and Bulgaria are Serbs.

But Serbs do not understand the simple fact: Not all Serbs are members of Serbian Orthodox Church, there are Catholics, Muslims, Pagans etc..

Seselj understood this very well but you avoid to comment it, wonder why.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Well Truth is that Montenegro, Serbia, Bosnia, 60% of Croatia, Northern Albania, parts of Macedonia and Bulgaria are Serbs.

But Serbs do not understand the simple fact: Not all Serbs are members of Serbian Orthodox Church, there are Catholics, Muslims, Pagans etc..

You couldn't hear from medieval Bosnian rulers "Ja sam Srbin", becouse ethnicity (as we know today) did not exist.

[Böri]

Bosniaks might have assimilated some Serbs, just like some Bosniaks were assimilated into Serbs through time. That is natural process.
You have medieval kingdom, you have a folk different than neighbors through sectarian identity. That means you have a different identity and history. That means the Bosniaks are different than Serbs as an ethnicity, as much as the Croats are different from both Serbs and Bosniaks.

[Bosniensis]

Seselj understood this very well but you avoid to comment it, wonder why.

I don't blame Šešelj, I blame collective Serbian Political and Academical choir for disaster, or better to say Apocalypse.
Chaos started much earlier with Pro-Orthodox agenda. It's not only that Bosnia became distinct entity, but Montenegro as well, now Kosovo..
I wonder what is next disaster?

That is because Serbia is created upon Orthodox Radicalism where no other religious community can feel at home. That's why Montenegrins created
nation for example. Out of ALL people.. Montenegrins, and again if you go deeper to explore why you will find Serbian Orthodox Church behind that act.

You can't create a nation where Serbian Orthodox Patriarch will be a VOICE OF SERBIAN PEOPLE. He can't have such authority because he isn't representative of Serbian people.

He can be representative of Serbian Orthodox Church nothing else.

That's why we have such a mess on Balkans because Religious Fanaticism has replaced TRUE National Identity = Ancestry.

[Bosniensis]

You couldn't hear from medieval Bosnian rulers "Ja sam Srbin", becouse ethnicity (as we know today) did not exist.

King Tvrtko wrote "Kralj Serbljem, Bosnom itd.. "go ahead and explore. We have villages in Bosnia (NW Bosnia) Srbljani, Srbac etc.. where no Orthodox live those are very old names.