First Bosniak Congress

[Vlatko Vukovic]

where no Orthodox live those are very old names.

Hahahhahaha. "Srbac" is from 1933, from the kingdom of Yugoslavia.

"Srbac je dobio ime rješenjem Ministarstva unutrašnjih poslova Kraljevine Jugoslavije od 2. novembra 1933. godine. Za izbor imena Srbac u osnovi bili su presudna tri faktora: geografski, historijski i etnički".

[Bosniensis]

Hahahhahaha. "Srbac" is from 1933, from the kingdom of Yugoslavia.

"Srbac je dobio ime rješenjem Ministarstva unutrašnjih poslova Kraljevine Jugoslavije od 2. novembra 1933. godine. Za izbor imena Srbac u osnovi bili su presudna tri faktora: geografski, historijski i etnički".

Well I've been told by locals those are old names, I might be wrong for that one.

[Pribislav]

Bosnia was kingdom with majority of her population having distinct sectarian identity than their neighbors. It has roots in Middle Ages. You have all ingredients and also a recipe to build an ethno here. Not to mention Bosnia Eyalet of Ottomans. There is nothing as Muslim Serb or Catholic Serb. Serbia was Orthodox in history, Serbian kingdoms and despotates were Orthodox states. Muslim Serbs are marginal.
Bosniaks aren't Serbs or Catholic since, they had a kingdom different than them and also a different religion. That's already enough to talk about differences.

Dude, since 7th century to 12th century most of Bosnia was part of Serbian state.


From 7th century to year 1329 Herzegovina was part of Serbia.
Bosnia separated from Raška (Rascia) in 12th century, but still was populated with Serbs. Raška and Bosnia in the middle age were as today Serbia and Republic of Srpska.

This is the charter of Bosnian ban Matej Ninoslav (Нинославь) from mid of 13th century, here he call own people (inhabitants of Bosnia) SERBS (underlined with red color) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matej_Ninoslav


Both Bosniak users Vlatko Vukovic and Bosniensis have a far origin from Montenegro.
Bosniak nation was created in year 1993 by Muhamed Filipović and Alija Izetbegović.
Alija Izetbrgović until 1961 was declared Muslim Serb, his origin is from capital of Serbia Belgrade from Serbian Muslim bey family Jahić https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alija_...63;#Early_life

[Böri]

Dude, since 7th century to 12th century most of Bosnia was part of Serbian state.

I see the Bihac region inside Croatia though. Serbian empire also destroyed and occupied Bulgaria, that doesn't make Bulgarians a Serb people.
Bosniaks had a different kingdom, a different religion back in middle age. That is enough to make them apart.

If Bosniaks are Muslim Serbs, there is no reason why Croats aren't Catholic Serbs.

[Bosniensis]

I see the Bihac region inside Croatia though. Serbian empire also destroyed and occupied Bulgaria, that doesn't make Bulgarians a Serb people.
Bosniaks had a different kingdom, a different religion back in middle age. That is enough to make them apart.

If Bosniaks are Muslim Serbs, there is no reason why Croats aren't Catholic Serbs.

There are only 2 people on western balkans: Serbs with their duchies (Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro and Dalmatia), Croatians: (Other parts of Croatia, Slovenia probably and parts of Bosnia)

Croatians were a smaller community and true West Slavs unlike Serbs who are heavily mixed with Natives and East Slavs.

I live in Bihac, but I am not from Bihac lol... migrations happened multiple times.

I do official call myself Muslim Bosnian, but historical speaking we are Serbs.

I blame Serbs for not creating compact and big nation (like modern Turkey) where Serbs of all confessions can live and prosper.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Both Bosniak users Vlatko Vukovic and Bosniensis have a far origin from Montenegro.

I really don't know for sure my far origin, but the truth is that the area of my father is mainly settled in past from Montenegro.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Croatians were a smaller community and true West Slavs unlike Serbs who are heavily mixed with Natives and East Slavs.

When, for the hell, Serbs mixed with East Slavs?

[Böri]

No, Croats are Yugoslav just as Serbs. They aren't closer to Czech.
If Croats exist as a separate entity from the Serbs, then so do Bosniaks. They have historical state and historical religious sect which justify that.
That doesn't matter who intermarried with who during the historical evolution.

[Pribislav]

I see the Bihac region inside Croatia though. Serbian empire also destroyed and occupied Bulgaria, that doesn't make Bulgarians a Serb people.
Bosniaks had a different kingdom, a different religion back in middle age. That is enough to make them apart.

If Bosniaks are Muslim Serbs, there is no reason why Croats aren't Catholic Serbs.

Bihać and western Bosnia were never part of Bosnia in the middle age. Western Bosnia was part of Croatia until 1102, when Magyars destoyed Croatia in 1102 present day western Bosnia became part of Hungary.
In Ottoman period present days western Bosnia became part of Bosnian pashaluk. In year 1944 Bosnia got present day borders.

Genetic of Bosnian Muslims is almost identical as genetic of Herzegovinian Serbs. Except that Serbs and Bosnian Muslims have same language they understasnd each other 100%, like Turks from Aydin and Turks from Ekishekir.

Y DNA of Bosnian Muslims https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-(273-samples)

Y DNA of Herzegovinian Serbs

[Bosniensis]

No, Croats are Yugoslav just as Serbs. They aren't closer to Czech.
If Croats exist as a separate entity from the Serbs, then so do Bosniaks. They have historical state and historical religious sect which justify that.
That doesn't matter who intermarried with who during the historical evolution.

Byzantines mention only arrival of Serbs and Croats. ONLY SERBS AND CROATS.

We can claim only Illyrian ancestry that predate Slavs, but we can't cause we are all Illyrians then since we are genetically ALL I2a1 (mostly).

Bosnians, Montenegrins and Serbs cluster to each other, Croats are a bit more distant genetically, maybe that's because they originate from Western Slavic territories unlike other South Slavs.