The Atlantids

[Curtis24]

I have heard much discussion of the Atlantid type or spectrum. Apparently, Atlantids are simply a catch-all term for those who can't sort out their Nordid traits from their robust Mediterranid traits. Essentially, Nordids and robust Mediterranids mixed with each other extensively in northwest Europe, so that its often hard to tell one from the other.

However, is it possible that Atlantids are basically Mediterranids that have been depigmented through natural selection? Natural selection in favor of light skin in the climates of the British Isles and the Low Countries is obvious. But light eyes also may have been selected for - for some reason they have high frequency in all North Europe, even(especially) Finland, where 90% of the population have blue eyes, despite have a low frequency of Nordids.

Furthermore, some of the places where Atlantids frequent are places that Nordids supposedly never really settled, for instance Ireland and the Scottish Highlands(if you assume the Celts were not pred. Nordid).

What are your thoughts? I'm not sure either way, as the typology of the British Isles still confuses me.

[Vasconcelos]

Agrippa makes quite a few interesting posts regarding what are Atlantids. They are not simply depigmented Nodrids, they are between Nordids and Mediterranids, therefore they can be called Nordomediterranids or something along those lines.

I'd advise you to read his posts from this page on
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...t=18532&page=7

[Curtis24]

Yes, but Atlantids are not intermediate between Nordids and Atlanto-Meds, according to the thread you linked to. "Atlantid", as Agrippa explains in that thread, means the person appears to have Atlanto-Med and Nordid influences, but due to the metrical similarity between both types, its hard to say which is which.

It is not a definite "intermediate" type but a spectrum of people who it is hard to classify, essentially.

That being said, the only reason that Atlantids are classified the way they are, and not classified as being robust Med., is that they usually have light eyes. Its basically a criteria. In other words, you take a Med. who is ordinarily metrically the same as a Nordid, yet he or she has light eyes and light skin, so you say there must be *some* Nordid influence.

What if these things could have developed from natural selection? I am sure blue eyes existed in Northwest Europe before the Nordid Iron Age expansions, given that robust Mediterranids and Nordids are fairly closely related anyway. And once again, I point to the example of Finland, which has a huge percentage of blue eyes yet a minority Nordid influence. Why must we assume that blue or light eyes must mean Nordid influence?

[Mordid]

Yes, but Atlantids are not intermediate between Nordids and Atlanto-Meds, according to the thread you linked to. "Atlantid", as Agrippa explains in that thread, means the person appears to have Atlanto-Med and Nordid influences, but due to the metrical similarity between both types, its hard to say which is which.

It is not a definite "intermediate" type but a spectrum of people who it is hard to classify, essentially.

That being said, the only reason that Atlantids are classified the way they are, and not classified as being robust Med., is that they usually have light eyes. Its basically a criteria. In other words, you take a Med. who is ordinarily metrically the same as a Nordid, yet he or she has light eyes and light skin, so you say there must be *some* Nordid influence.

What if these things could have developed from natural selection? I am sure blue eyes existed in Northwest Europe before the Nordid Iron Age expansions, given that robust Mediterranids and Nordids are fairly closely related anyway. And once again, I point to the example of Finland, which has a huge percentage of blue eyes yet a minority Nordid influence. Why must we assume that blue or light eyes must mean Nordid influence?

I'm not an expert but you have to ask Agrippa because he know the question of your.
Atlantid are more lighter than your average Atlanto-Med. You can see that Atlantid have distant Nordid look.

[Vasconcelos]

It's just not pigmentation, this is just clean between Atlantids and Nordatlantids where the latter have blue eyes, and the former do not (it might not be the only thing, but it's a criteria).

Fact is you have some difficulty telling some Atlantids and Atlantomeds from each other because they seem to be an intermediate, like myself, which despite having (light) brown eyes and hair, was classified morpholgically atlantid/atlantomed. I say we "ignorants" stick to Nordomediterranid to avoid confusion.

[Agrippa]

Why must we assume that blue or light eyes must mean Nordid influence?

We must not, but if there are other Nordoid traits in a person, it is possible to very likely.

Atlantids are mixed or intermediate in genotype also, like I said already:
Nordid couple/local population = Nordid
Atlantomediterranid couple/local population = Atlantomediterranid
Atlantid couple/local population = Atlantid, Nordid or Atlantomediterranid

offspring.

Phenotypically they are more Nordoid looking, lighter pigmented etc. than typical Atlantomediterranids.

[Trog]

I'm not sure if this thread has been done before, or if it's in the wrong place. Apologies if either apply. Discussion in chat yesterday about North Atlantid v Atlanto-Mediterranean v Paleo Atlantid.

So what really is the difference?

North Atlantid

Courtney Cox/Demi Moore/Jennifer Connolly??





Paleo-Atlantid



Alison King



Lorraine Kelly



Atlanto-Meds?

I'm not sure, here's where I get confused. For most I think of are either from the above two groups, or is most likely close to mediterranean. So what now for Atlanto-meds? Where are they? Who are they?

[gold_fenix]

well features between atlanto med, atlantids and north atlantids are similar, perhaps atlanto med are more robust but the difference is pigmentation perhaps for this reason results confuse, paleo atlantid are archaich cromagnoids, as a dark version of phalian but they share with nordids or mediterranean long head and strong dolicocephalic

[Trog]

Would I be right in saying that at times, paleo-Atlantids traits are so archaic, that they may even appear partly-mixed to others? CZ Jones being a good example, people thinking she was part-Asian/part Amerindian.

[Hess]

I don't see anything Mongoloid or Non European about CZJ