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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyladybutterfly View Post
    they re all "arabs" for dumb people

    dumb or with lack of awareness about.


    It's the same silliness that to call "hispanic" in USA all people whose mother language is spanish.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    No.
    I was in Malta some years ago and they don't looks like arabs at all.
    For the language it's souns like a latin language with some foreign admixure.
    You don't have to look like one to be one. Arab is a linguistic based identity. People from Sudan have in terms of features less in common with Middle Easterners than the Sardinians do, but they're still considered Arab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Not really, no. They are transplants from Agrigento, Caltanissetta, and Palermo:
    Not all the Maltese descend from these transplants. In Malta there are many surnames who are non-existent in Sicily and in the rest of Italy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    But Arab means one who speaks Arabic natively, the others do not mean that.
    If Maltese are transplants from Sicily, Arabic is clearly not their native language.

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    Their language is not Arab, just Semitic first and foremost. They're European too so it makes no sense.

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    That is, Arab now is a concept based on linguistics.

    Aha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percivalle View Post
    Not all the Maltese descend from these transplants. In Malta there are many surnames who are non-existent in Sicily and in the rest of Italy.
    They used to be present in Sicily but the entire families were transplanted. Which surnames do you speak of? Most Maltese surnames -- Vella, Spiteri, Farruggia, Grech, etc. -- are Sicilian or have equivalents there.



    If Maltese are transplants from Sicily, Arabic is clearly not their native language.
    Maltese is not called "Sicilian Arabic" for no reason. It originated in Sicily and got transplanted in Malta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    They used to be present in Sicily but the entire families were transplanted. Which surnames do you speak of? Most Maltese surnames -- Vella, Spiteri, Farruggia, Grech, etc. -- are Sicilian or have equivalents there.
    Surnames like Fenech, Zammit, Micallef, Abdilla, Asciak, Bajada...


    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Maltese is not called "Sicilian Arabic" for no reason. It originated in Sicily and got transplanted in Malta.
    It's like saying that everyone who speaks now American English, that originated in the USA, is of British stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percivalle View Post
    Surnames like Fenech, Zammit, Micallef, Abdilla, Asciak, Bajada...
    They once did exist in Sicily (when it was under Arab rule) but no more.

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    If they are not Arabs then neither are Levantines. Since Levantine Arabic, especially the Lebanese variety, has more Aramaic influence than Maltese has Sicilian/Italian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    They once did exist in Sicily (when it was under Arab rule) but no more.
    Are you sure about this? Most likely they are more recent and have another origin.

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