What is the Bundesrepublik's official stance on Prussia/Kaliningrad Oblast?

[Agrippa]

Even worse then - Germany chickened out.

Under the same conditions most other countries in the world, probably with the exception of Japan and Russia, would have given up long ago...

[Groenewolf]

To be precise, we haven't lost the first one. The political leadership stopped the war after internal uproar and protest when our armies stood in France while the eastern front was already at peace in favour of Germany after the treaty of Brest-Litowsk.

Indeed, the allies should have recognized the victory in the east and allowed Germany to keep their gains there. But then again a large part of the Versailles treaty would not be possible.

Even worse then - Germany chickened out.

Oh please, your planned Mercian defense forces would be crushed in 15 minutes if they not decide to flee for their lives.

[Wulfhere]

Indeed, the allies should have recognized the victory in the east and allowed Germany to keep their gains there. But then again a large part of the Versailles treaty would not be possible.



Oh please, your planned Mercian defense forces would be crushed in 15 minutes if they not decide to flee for their lives.

How on earth could you know that?

[RoyBatty]

What's this "Anglo-Jewish Axis", and how do I join it?

You're already part of it. Congratulations.

[Sarmata]

What about the ideas of a Great-Poland reaching from near Hamburg (or at least parts of the former GDR) to the Black Sea? These plans were generally accepted and supportes by the subsequent Polish governments as well, long before Hitler was even known. It was just not enough that Poland was reinstated after WW I (Germany ceding Posen/West-Prussia, were many Poles lived), they wanted more, much more (Lithuania, Belorussia, parts of Ukraine). Don't tell fairytales about the 'genuine' Polish territories brought back to the motherland and all that crap. Poland is just an overrated nation, which doesn't seem to understand very well which position it really holds.
Besides, who gave permission to rule the lands in East Prussia, wasn't it the Polish duke Conrad of Masowia, who wanted to fight these Baltic Prussians with the help of the Teutonic Knights and reward them with that land in the first place?



It's always about German expansionism, Polish expansionism is hardly ever mentioned. Of course the reason for this is quite clear, we all know that.

Those ideas ends mainly in some books and minds of Polish patriots murdered by nazis and communists,the lebensraum idea ends in the blood of milions of people ...can you see difference(?).
I didn't said about fairy tales we have also historical rights to our lands, ofcourse it seems that you have only and rightful version of history(?)
I didn't say that Poles wasn't expansive, we were. If you live between the wolves you must be also similar to wolf not to a sheep. However those wolves so many times drank our blood.
"Poland is just an overrated nation" what do you mean, please don't be offensive and just keep your own nation who ever you are.

[Crossbow]

Those ideas ends mainly in some books and minds of Polish patriots murdered by nazis and communists,the lebensraum idea ends in the blood of milions of people ...can you see difference(?).
I didn't said about fairy tales we have also historical rights to our lands, ofcourse it seems that you have only and rightful version of history(?)
I didn't say that Poles wasn't expansive, we were. If you live between the wolves you must be also similar to wolf not to a sheep. However those wolves so many times drank our blood.
"Poland is just an overrated nation" what do you mean, please don't be offensive and just keep your own nation who ever you are.

Didn't say Poles had no rights to their own lands. It seems to differ a lot, what's Polish or not, and it depends on the opportunity given. That is I suppose, and because of what you're saying, a common trait for the people of a country who have lived among wolves. So actually you were innocent sheep?
Poland is overrated by itself mainly, because it seems to think it's more important than it actually is. You could say myth and reality are not quite in balance. Poland has only been useful to other countries to attain their goals, and they betrayed you as well, because they don´t gave a shit. I guess you are all too well aware of this. Yet when it comes to national feelings of ´brotherhood´, they are suddenly all there. Look at France in the past, the Allies in WW II, look at that American rocketshield in our days for instance.
A rightful version of history? Just coming up with true facts, but you only seem to take notice of writings by Polish historicians justifying the rightfulness of their 'historical' claims which throughout remote history never had been questioned by Polish rulers.
And what were the dimensions of Poland after WW I, when a new state was defined 125 years after the partitions within the Curzon-( at that time the British foreign secretary) line, largely corresponding with the ethnic boundaries? Still not big enough.
I feel free to express my mind, if you want me to stick to my nation, well I could say the same to you.

[Sarmata]

Didn't say Poles had no rights to their own lands. It seems to differ a lot, what's Polish or not, and it depends on the opportunity given. That is I suppose, and because of what you're saying, a common trait for the people of a country who have lived among wolves. So actually you were innocent sheep?
Poland is overrated by itself mainly, because it seems to think it's more important than it actually is. You could say myth and reality are not quite in balance. Poland has only been useful to other countries to attain their goals, and they betrayed you as well, because they don´t gave a shit. I guess you are all too well aware of this. Yet when it comes to national feelings of ´brotherhood´, they are suddenly all there. Look at France in the past, the Allies in WW II, look at that American rocketshield in our days for instance.
A rightful version of history? Just coming up with true facts, but you only seem to take notice of writings by Polish historicians justifying the rightfulness of their 'historical' claims which throughout remote history never had been questioned by Polish rulers.
And what were the dimensions of Poland after WW I, when a new state was defined 125 years after the partitions within the Curzon-( at that time the British foreign secretary) line, largely corresponding with the ethnic boundaries? Still not big enough.
I feel free to express my mind, if you want me to stick to my nation, well I could say the same to you.

As I said we were not...

And what about Netherlands, Germany or even UK, as almost every European nation we're just puppets in super states games, sad but true but in today's system it's a fact.

Very good, I'm already stick to my Nation

[Johnston]

I would hope Berlin, Danzig, and Koenigsberg to reunite.