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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Bronson View Post
    The human need a belief to exist in this world, and the Atheist also believes too, that no God exists.
    Maybe they believe in making the most out of their time alive. Life can be wonderful. You don't need a belief in a god to enjoy life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    These are just legends, fairytales for little children. In reality no woman has never fought in any war.
    Um, the Soviets had women fighting in their ranks. Obviously it wasn't in mass but they did have female soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Revival View Post
    Some atheists are too dumb they even start directly parrot Christian stuff with some altered words, to the point of becoming absolutist.
    "U gotz to decide between religien and scienz"
    It is true that you don't have to be an atheist to work on engineering, atomics, physics, technology and etc. You can make scientific achivement by believing in god and creation too, there is no practical obstacle for that. However when we go to the bottom we see that modern science was born and based upon logical thinking and falsification which is the exact opposite of dogmatic doctrines of religions. For instance it is simply oxymoron to study on a field that is purely based on logic/falsificiation and hold dogmatic believes at the same time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Revival View Post
    This is the main problem of atheists: They try to hide behind a hollow shield of "science" despite their view is only powered by feelings and beliefs. No different at all than the extremists of the other side.

    Why? Because scientific stuff needs to be found in observable evidences, and then tested under measurable conditions. It should not be needed to say the concept of God becomes very problematic in a setting like this.

    Basing stuff in "negative evidences" as per, "There is no evidence God exists, therefore he doesn't exist" or the opposite "There is no evidence God doesn't exist, therefore he exists" does not lead to conclusive results because it's 50/50 weight against each other (or more like 0/0 in this case).

    The theory of the origin of the universe most Atheists adhere to is too identical to that of the genesis, replacing all the epic adjectives by tech adjectives and replacing "God" with "Nothingness" in every paragraph.

    Therefore this silly debate only becomes "I wanna! I wanna!".

    I would say religious/deity stuff is better studied from a philosophical perspective. Science is not the apt tool to measure anything like this, because it is not possible for it to yield results in any direction.

    This is not even taking into account most people could not properly describe what a God encompasses (this can vary a lot).

    Also, not exactly that highly religious myself. Far from atheist though. I also think humanity (for the most part) is better off under religious presence, than in absence of it. Mainly because the moral enforcement.
    Yes, in theory, we may assume that a some form entity like "god" exists because we still know very little about our universe and we can't "prove" otherwise. The problem is here is not wheter the "god" is objectively exists or not but is the "god" (or "gods") exists as it is depicted by the popular religions. So far we haven't seen any proof of that and there is simply no reason to desing our lives based on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Maybe they believe in making the most out of their time alive. Life can be wonderful. You don't need a belief in a god to enjoy life.

    My point was just the "belief". You can believe in everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Bronson View Post
    My point was just the "belief". You can believe in everything.
    You were saying that one needs a belief to exist in this world and then use an atheist's belief that God doesn't exist as an example but that's not a belief that is necessary to allow someone to live in this world. It doesn't provide someone with an ideology, values, or anything else to give their lives meaning. Atheism is simply a belief that there isn't a God because there is no evidence that supports such a belief. What values they have may be similar to those of religious people but it's not derived with the belief that those values are dictated by a God. They can argue these values exist for various other reasons and that religion is simply a mystical spin on these values.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Bronson View Post
    The human need a belief to exist in this world, and the Atheist also believes too, that no God exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Atheism is simply a belief that there isn't a God because there is no evidence that supports such a belief.
    Many scientists believe that there is most likely to be intelligent life in other worlds. Also that there may be other parallel universes, wormholes, etc.

    The logic of an atheist is that there is no such life, no parallel worlds, and so on. Since there is no evidence to support this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tietar View Post
    Many scientists believe that there is most likely to be intelligent life in other worlds. Also that there may be other parallel universes, wormholes, etc.

    The logic of an atheist is that there is no such life, no parallel worlds, and so on. Since there is no evidence to support this.
    It's all atheist conspiracy theory dude. Don't believe in anything what scientists say.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    You don't understand what emotional intelligence is. Manipulators have high emotional intelligence. The manipulated have low emotional intelligence. Most extremely religious people fall into the category of lambs led to slaughter which means they have low emotional intelligence.
    Great post.
    I'd like to continuate your line of tinking and add another factors that also help us to understand why some are more emotional:
    1-Hormones.
    Hormones such as Estrogen( the hormone responsible for the typical irritating female behaviour).
    Higly estrogened males(also known as soyboys) tend to be endomorph like alpines, baltids and borrebies. That explains why alpinization can also be translated as "addictional annoyingnes";
    Im endomorph myself and i guess that explains why i was banned from here for so many times, lol;
    2-Bad education and little dicipline when kid;
    3-Repression.
    In our modern society, specially in the West( but also in areas influentiated by it in the thirld world) masculinity is so repressed that is considerated as a crime.
    Inclusive, to end it honouring the topic of the thread,
    The instinctual-repressive tool most used is, yeah, it, religion!
    Last edited by Joso; 11-15-2019 at 12:49 AM.

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