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    I ran WORLD 25 CALCULATOR and admix4 oracle on my 22 chromosomes and I've got very different results.
    For instance my 4th chromosome got:
    0.00% E_ASIAN
    7.44% SHG_WHG
    0.00% SAN_PYGMY
    2.65% ALTAIAN
    0.01% C_AMERINDIAN
    8.03% NEAR_EASTERN
    5.21% SSA
    3.95% SE_ASIAN
    0.00% OCEANIAN
    0.00% ARCTIC
    13.77% EEF
    3.67% W_STEPPE
    0.00% S_INDIAN
    4.86% E_AFRICAN_HADZA
    0.52% S_AMERINDIAN
    0.00% E_SIBERIAN
    0.64% MBUTI
    0.00% N_AMERINDIAN
    33.94% NE_EUROPEAN
    11.94% N_AFRICAN
    0.00% BALOCHI
    0.03% E_STEPPE
    0.00% C_AFRICAN_BIAKA
    1.27% PAPUAN
    2.07% W_SIBERIAN
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Canary_Islanders @ 16.729879
    2 Spanish @ 19.723018
    3 HungaryGamba_BA @ 21.077864
    4 French @ 22.1887
    5 Spanish_North @ 22.318158
    6 French_South @ 23.0505
    7 Hungarian @ 24.699811
    8 English @ 24.801752
    9 Basque @ 25.675779
    10 Croatian @ 25.799115
    11 Orcadian @ 26.112813
    12 Czech @ 26.125812
    13 Scottish @ 26.339924
    14 Bergamo @ 26.486445
    15 Norwegian @ 26.699832
    16 Icelandic @ 26.983398
    17 Bulgarian @ 27.193356
    18 Ukrainian @ 28.370612
    19 Russian @ 28.975884
    20 Mordovian @ 29.18805
    271 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Algerian+HungaryGamba_BA @ 15.009653
    2 Finnish+Tunisian @ 15.780009
    3 Algerian+Finnish @ 15.95667
    4 Canary_Islanders+HungaryGamba_BA @ 16.120396
    5 Estonian+Tunisian @ 16.138209
    6 HungaryGamba_BA+Tunisian @ 16.236371
    7 Lithuanian+Tunisian @ 16.38591
    8 Algerian+Icelandic @ 16.394613
    9 Basque+Kostenki14 @ 16.459029
    10 Algerian+Estonian @ 16.510066
    11 Algerian+Norwegian @ 16.512759
    12 Canary_Islanders+Saami_WGA @ 16.543098
    13 RISE_irSca+Tunisian @ 16.55324
    14 Algerian+Lithuanian @ 16.684364
    15 Algerian+Orcadian @ 16.692821
    16 Canary_Islanders+Canary_Islanders @ 16.729879
    17 Algerian+Basque @ 16.764943
    18 Algerian+English @ 16.824064
    19 Algerian+Scottish @ 16.8742
    20 Algerian+Russian @ 16.984867
    36856 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% HungaryGamba_BA +25% Somali @ 7.902766
    2 50% Finnish +25% Ethiopian_Jew +25% SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.073287
    3 50% Finnish +25% Somali +25% SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.309327
    4 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% Somali +25% Spanish_North @ 8.395301
    5 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% Datog +25% HungaryGamba_BA @ 8.496925
    6 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% Basque +25% Somali @ 8.551249
    7 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% French_South +25% Somali @ 8.621723
    8 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% Datog +25% Spanish_North @ 8.771987
    9 50% Basque +25% Saami_WGA +25% Somali @ 8.891489
    10 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% Saami_WGA +25% Somali @ 8.929716
    11 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% Basque +25% Datog @ 9.025395
    12 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% Finnish +25% Somali @ 9.042423
    13 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% Datog +25% French_South @ 9.043384
    14 50% Estonian +25% Ethiopian_Jew +25% SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 9.059441
    15 50% Finnish +25% Datog +25% SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 9.125826
    16 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% French +25% Somali @ 9.238229
    17 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% Icelandic +25% Somali @ 9.23903
    18 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% English +25% Somali @ 9.250549
    19 50% HungaryGamba_BA +25% Somali +25% Spanish @ 9.285001
    20 50% Estonian +25% Somali +25% SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 9.291292
    4204977 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Finnish+HungaryGamba_BA+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 7.161565
    2 Estonian+HungaryGamba_BA+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 7.377253
    3 HungaryGamba_BA+Lithuanian+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_M N @ 7.510279
    4 Basque+Finnish+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 7.79612
    5 HungaryGamba_BA+Russian+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 7.889597
    6 HungaryGamba_BA+HungaryGamba_BA+HungaryGamba_BA+So mali @ 7.902766
    7 Datog+Finnish+HungaryGamba_BA+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 7.904541
    8 Basque+Estonian+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.024305
    9 HungaryGamba_BA+Saami_WGA+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.069016
    10 Ethiopian_Jew+Finnish+Finnish+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.073287
    11 Finnish+Somali+Spanish_North+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.105542
    12 Datog+Estonian+HungaryGamba_BA+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.107213
    13 Finnish+French_South+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.115782
    14 Basque+Lithuanian+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.149209
    15 Belarusian+HungaryGamba_BA+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_M N @ 8.171971
    16 Basque+Saami_WGA+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.191705
    17 Ethiopian_Jew+Finnish+HungaryGamba_BA+SwedenSkoglu nd_MN @ 8.209654
    18 Datog+HungaryGamba_BA+Lithuanian+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.223366
    19 Estonian+French_South+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.249069
    20 Estonian+Somali+Spanish_North+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.261143
    21 Finnish+Finnish+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.309327
    22 French_South+Lithuanian+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.356394
    23 Lithuanian+Somali+Spanish_North+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.365137
    24 HungaryGamba_BA+Mordovian+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.370172
    25 Estonian+Ethiopian_Jew+HungaryGamba_BA+SwedenSkogl und_MN @ 8.38692
    26 English+Finnish+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.389712
    27 Basque+Russian+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.390183
    28 HungaryGamba_BA+HungaryGamba_BA+Somali+Spanish_Nor th @ 8.395301
    29 Basque+Datog+Finnish+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.400186
    30 Estonian+Ethiopian_Jew+Finnish+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.421016
    31 Finnish+Orcadian+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.439714
    32 Finnish+Norwegian+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.478174
    33 Datog+HungaryGamba_BA+HungaryGamba_BA+HungaryGamba _BA @ 8.496925
    34 Basque+HungaryGamba_BA+Saami_WGA+Somali @ 8.510236
    35 Ethiopian_Jew+Finnish+Lithuanian+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.526761
    36 Datog+HungaryGamba_BA+Russian+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.549343
    37 Basque+HungaryGamba_BA+HungaryGamba_BA+Somali @ 8.551249
    38 Czech+Finnish+Somali+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.572353
    39 Datog+Finnish+Spanish_North+SwedenSkoglund_MN @ 8.57999
    40 Ethiopian_Jew+HungaryGamba_BA+Lithuanian+SwedenSko glund_MN @ 8.583533
    23291178 iterations.
    While my 5th chromosome got:
    0.02% E_ASIAN
    7.50% SHG_WHG
    0.00% SAN_PYGMY
    1.60% ALTAIAN
    0.00% C_AMERINDIAN
    9.53% NEAR_EASTERN
    0.00% SSA
    0.00% SE_ASIAN
    0.00% OCEANIAN
    0.00% ARCTIC
    10.00% EEF
    9.12% W_STEPPE
    5.29% S_INDIAN
    0.00% E_AFRICAN_HADZA
    0.00% S_AMERINDIAN
    1.72% E_SIBERIAN
    0.00% MBUTI
    0.01% N_AMERINDIAN
    26.52% NE_EUROPEAN
    8.25% N_AFRICAN
    15.64% BALOCHI
    4.80% E_STEPPE
    0.00% C_AFRICAN_BIAKA
    0.00% PAPUAN
    0.00% W_SIBERIAN
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Bulgarian @ 19.685669
    2 Canary_Islanders @ 20.154728
    3 Hungarian @ 20.628035
    4 French @ 20.660036
    5 RISE_baUne @ 21.452643
    6 Croatian @ 21.531962
    7 Spanish @ 22.214628
    8 Bergamo @ 22.900264
    9 HungaryGamba_IA @ 23.045683
    10 Bell_Beaker_LN @ 23.101046
    11 Czech @ 23.174828
    12 English @ 23.240077
    13 Scottish @ 23.949763
    14 Orcadian @ 24.021626
    15 Chuvash @ 24.084441
    16 Albanian @ 24.29496
    17 Norwegian @ 24.800176
    18 Icelandic @ 24.816361
    19 Mordovian @ 24.901678
    20 Ukrainian @ 25.00901
    271 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Kostenki14+Scottish @ 10.476203
    2 Czech+Kostenki14 @ 10.552553
    3 English+Kostenki14 @ 10.56814
    4 Hungarian+Kostenki14 @ 10.669176
    5 Kostenki14+Orcadian @ 10.704441
    6 Croatian+Kostenki14 @ 10.799558
    7 Kostenki14+Norwegian @ 10.896871
    8 Icelandic+Kostenki14 @ 10.977328
    9 Kostenki14+Ukrainian @ 11.020906
    10 Canary_Islanders+Tajik_Pomiri @ 11.11803
    11 French+Kostenki14 @ 11.558203
    12 Belarusian+Kostenki14 @ 11.582544
    13 Ashkenazi_Jew+RISE_baUne @ 11.62085
    14 Maltese+RISE_baUne @ 11.671697
    15 Canary_Islanders+RISE_baStq @ 11.710724
    16 HungaryGamba_BA+Tajik_Pomiri @ 11.826613
    17 RISE_baUne+Sicilian @ 12.036123
    18 RISE_baStq+Spanish @ 12.277364
    19 Moroccan_Jew+RISE_baUne @ 12.554087
    20 Spanish_North+Tajik_Pomiri @ 12.618472
    36856 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Canary_Islanders +25% Kurd_Anth +25% RISE_baUne @ 5.768336
    2 50% Canary_Islanders +25% Pashtun +25% RISE_baUne @ 5.997925
    3 50% Canary_Islanders +25% RISE_baUne +25% Tajik_Pomiri @ 6.154534
    4 50% Canary_Islanders +25% Pathan +25% RISE_baUne @ 6.214902
    5 50% Canary_Islanders +25% Burusho +25% RISE_baUne @ 6.293126
    6 50% Canary_Islanders +25% Bell_Beaker_LN +25% Tajik_Pomiri @ 6.371452
    7 50% Canary_Islanders +25% Bell_Beaker_LN +25% Pashtun @ 6.482477
    8 50% Canary_Islanders +25% Bell_Beaker_LN +25% Kurd_Anth @ 6.495107
    9 50% Canary_Islanders +25% Bell_Beaker_LN +25% Pathan @ 6.545835
    10 50% Canary_Islanders +25% Bell_Beaker_LN +25% Burusho @ 6.614057
    11 50% French +25% Kostenki14 +25% RISE_baStq @ 6.865296
    12 50% Bulgarian +25% Kostenki14 +25% RISE_baUne @ 6.901013
    13 50% Canary_Islanders +25% Balochi +25% RISE_baUne @ 6.925879
    14 50% French +25% Kostenki14 +25% Tajik_Pomiri @ 6.980804
    15 50% Icelandic +25% Kostenki14 +25% Turkish @ 7.06675
    16 50% Canary_Islanders +25% RISE_baUne +25% Sindhi @ 7.087114
    17 50% Canary_Islanders +25% RISE_baUne +25% Uzbek_Afghan @ 7.138846
    18 50% Spanish +25% Kostenki14 +25% RISE_baStq @ 7.167694
    19 50% Icelandic +25% Kostenki14 +25% Moroccan_Jew @ 7.167748
    20 50% Icelandic +25% Iranian +25% Kostenki14 @ 7.222709
    4922604 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 HungaryGamba_BA+RISE_baUne+Tajik_Pomiri+Tunisian @ 5.590234
    2 Ashkenazi_Jew+Belarusian+Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14 @ 5.607709
    3 Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+Lithuanian+Turkish_Jew @ 5.681687
    4 Bell_Beaker_LN+Estonian+Kostenki14+Turkish_Jew @ 5.68768
    5 Ashkenazi_Jew+Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+Lithuanian @ 5.696355
    6 Ashkenazi_Jew+Bell_Beaker_LN+Estonian+Kostenki14 @ 5.698876
    7 Ashkenazi_Jew+Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+Mordovian @ 5.737665
    8 Bell_Beaker_LN+Lithuanian+Tajik_Pomiri+Tunisian @ 5.748479
    9 Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+Lithuanian+Turkish @ 5.757678
    10 Canary_Islanders+Canary_Islanders+Kurd_Anth+RISE_b aUne @ 5.768336
    11 Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+Lithuanian+Moroccan_Jew @ 5.805776
    12 Canary_Islanders+Icelandic+Kostenki14+Tajik_Pomiri @ 5.807841
    13 Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+RISE_irSca+Turkish @ 5.818711
    14 Bell_Beaker_LN+Estonian+Kostenki14+Turkish @ 5.820074
    15 Bell_Beaker_LN+Estonian+Kostenki14+Moroccan_Jew @ 5.830438
    16 Ashkenazi_Jew+Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+Ukrainian @ 5.836575
    17 Bell_Beaker_LN+Icelandic+Tajik_Pomiri+Tunisian @ 5.848032
    18 Belarusian+Bell_Beaker_LN+Tajik_Pomiri+Tunisian @ 5.849465
    19 Bell_Beaker_LN+Lithuanian+Pashtun+Tunisian @ 5.852619
    20 Canary_Islanders+Kostenki14+Norwegian+Tajik_Pomiri @ 5.869591
    21 Bell_Beaker_LN+Estonian+Tajik_Pomiri+Tunisian @ 5.873978
    22 Bell_Beaker_LN+Norwegian+Tajik_Pomiri+Tunisian @ 5.883654
    23 Belarusian+Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+Maltese @ 5.890438
    24 Canary_Islanders+Kostenki14+Orcadian+Tajik_Pomiri @ 5.905695
    25 Canary_Islanders+Kostenki14+Scottish+Tajik_Pomiri @ 5.939971
    26 Canary_Islanders+Kurd_Anth+Lithuanian+RISE_baMon @ 5.946643
    27 Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+RISE_irSca+Turkish_Jew @ 5.948461
    28 Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+Maltese+Mordovian @ 5.949851
    29 Ashkenazi_Jew+Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+Russian @ 5.957826
    30 Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+Lebanese+RISE_irSca @ 5.963484
    31 Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+Lithuanian+Maltese @ 5.968804
    32 Bell_Beaker_LN+Estonian+Kostenki14+Maltese @ 5.97027
    33 Canary_Islanders+Estonian+Kurd_Anth+RISE_baMon @ 5.978353
    34 Canary_Islanders+Canary_Islanders+Pashtun+RISE_baU ne @ 5.997925
    35 Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+Mordovian+Sicilian @ 6.002055
    36 Canary_Islanders+Kostenki14+Lezgin+RISE_irSca @ 6.016271
    37 Bell_Beaker_LN+Estonian+Pashtun+Tunisian @ 6.023105
    38 Bell_Beaker_LN+Orcadian+Tajik_Pomiri+Tunisian @ 6.023528
    39 Ashkenazi_Jew+Icelandic+Kostenki14+RISE_baUne @ 6.031894
    40 Bell_Beaker_LN+Kostenki14+RISE_irSca+Syrian @ 6.040678
    Who may, please, enlighten me on these 3 questions:
    1/Is running autosomal calc and -specifically- oracle by each chromsome helpful for giving me hints about my supposed ancestry?
    2/How to explain my so different results from one chromosome to another?
    3/How to explain my 5th chromosome scoring 0 SSA and 15.64% Baloch while my 4th one scoring 5,21% SSA and 0 Baloch?
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    My 20 th chromosome is even more deviating scoring higher than the double of NEAR EASTERN and significantly lesser NE_EUROPEAN than both of 4th and 5th chromosome
    0.00% E_ASIAN
    0.00% SHG_WHG
    0.00% SAN_PYGMY
    0.00% ALTAIAN
    0.00% C_AMERINDIAN
    19.69% NEAR_EASTERN
    0.00% SSA
    0.00% SE_ASIAN
    0.00% OCEANIAN
    0.00% ARCTIC
    18.18% EEF
    8.37% W_STEPPE
    8.27% S_INDIAN
    4.07% E_AFRICAN_HADZA
    0.00% S_AMERINDIAN
    0.00% E_SIBERIAN
    0.00% MBUTI
    0.00% N_AMERINDIAN
    16.86% NE_EUROPEAN
    14.66% N_AFRICAN
    6.13% BALOCHI
    3.77% E_STEPPE
    0.00% C_AFRICAN_BIAKA
    0.00% PAPUAN
    0.00% W_SIBERIAN

    22th chromosome is very high on North-African and SHG_WHG
    0.00% E_ASIAN
    19.36% SHG_WHG
    0.15% SAN_PYGMY
    0.00% ALTAIAN
    0.00% C_AMERINDIAN
    6.11% NEAR_EASTERN
    6.17% SSA
    1.29% SE_ASIAN
    2.23% OCEANIAN
    0.00% ARCTIC
    3.82% EEF
    0.05% W_STEPPE
    0.00% S_INDIAN
    0.00% E_AFRICAN_HADZA
    0.17% S_AMERINDIAN
    0.00% E_SIBERIAN
    0.00% MBUTI
    0.01% N_AMERINDIAN
    12.63% NE_EUROPEAN
    19.50% N_AFRICAN
    18.27% BALOCHI
    8.92% E_STEPPE
    0.00% C_AFRICAN_BIAKA
    1.29% PAPUAN
    0.00% W_SIBERIAN

    While 13th chromosome is lower on North African and scores 0 SHG-WHG
    0.00% E_ASIAN
    0.00% SHG_WHG
    0.00% SAN_PYGMY
    0.00% ALTAIAN
    0.00% C_AMERINDIAN
    30.92% NEAR_EASTERN
    0.00% SSA
    0.00% SE_ASIAN
    0.00% OCEANIAN
    0.00% ARCTIC
    28.31% EEF
    0.00% W_STEPPE
    0.68% S_INDIAN
    0.00% E_AFRICAN_HADZA
    0.00% S_AMERINDIAN
    0.00% E_SIBERIAN
    0.00% MBUTI
    0.00% N_AMERINDIAN
    21.14% NE_EUROPEAN
    5.86% N_AFRICAN
    11.27% BALOCHI
    0.00% E_STEPPE
    0.00% C_AFRICAN_BIAKA
    1.81% PAPUAN
    0.00% W_SIBERIAN

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