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Thread: South English have much of Mediterranean ancestry that is neither Celtic nor Germanic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    Rubbish! Southern English such as the Cornish people (...)
    Cornish people are NOT English at all. They are another ethnicity.

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    Normans must have absorbed some of local Gallo-Romance ancestry when they invaded from France. But I doubt it is them, as they were elite who didn't leave much impact.
    It is probably something native to Isles (Basque like ?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Note that Hinxton Celt was a Pre-Roman sample, and Hinxton Anglo-Saxon was a fresh immigrant. We need Romano-Briton samples, from most Romanized areas of Britain, to see how much Southern European genetically they were during the early 400s AD.
    The southern British Celts were probably already more like the Gauls than the northern British Celts before the Romans came. PotBI itself suggests as much.

    And how many Ancient Celtic samples were there? Tiny samples have little or no statistical significance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Cornish people are NOT English at all. They are another ethnicity.
    They are hardly any different to the central English. Just a bit more 'French' and a bit less 'German'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neon Knight View Post
    They are hardly any different to the central English. Just a bit more 'French' and a bit less 'German'.
    I guess Cornish have basically been completely assimilated into the mainstream English population?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neon Knight View Post
    They are hardly any different to the central English. Just a bit more 'French' and a bit less 'German'.
    Aren't they more like Welsh than like Central English?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I guess Cornish have basically been completely assimilated into the mainstream English population?
    https://www4.uwm.edu/celtic/ekeltoi/...dinand_2_6.pdf

    by AD 936 the Saxon King Athelstan had confined the West Weallas to the peninsula west of River Tamar, basically the same territory that constitutes the county of Cornwall today. Cornwall, however, was not a truly independent Celtic country, but a satellite of the new and mighty Kingdom of England, a situation that ended only when the Normans conquered Britain. The English spoken by the ruling classes was replaced by Norman-French and Breton, while Latin continued to be the language of the official documents and of the Cornish Church. Moreover, Cornwall had become a more diverse place, where Cornish natives lived alongside Saxons (English), Normans, Irish, Flemish and Bretons.
    By now, then, I suppose they have. They still think of themselves as being a bit different from the rest of the English though. There was a Cornish rebellion in 1549:

    http://www.cornwallinformation.co.uk...e-august-1549/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Aren't they more like Welsh than like Central English?
    According to PotBI, the Cornish and English all have 25% to 30% overlap with the north-central/north-east French whereas the Welsh have none at all. It's the biggest mystery of that study. Even Scots and Orkney Islanders have it, but not the Welsh.

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    Though the Welsh do have a lot of overlap with Bretons who seem to be a composite of some earlier DNA (the light blue) and something that came later (the dark blue):





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    tl;dr
    Is this why I'm swarthy as fuck?

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