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    Default The proto-Bulgarians were not Turkic, did not carry Asian YDNA in significant quantities

    Let the pan-Turkist and anti-Bulgar butthurt begin.

    One of the most important discoveries about Bulgarian history was recently published [10], [13], [19]. It shows that an entire array of previously unknown sources written in four languages - Old Bulgarian, Greek, Old German and Hebrew-Khazar - unanimously describe proto-Bulgarians as a quite numerous people [20]. In all of these sources proto-Bulgarians were referred to using similar expressions: “countless” [21], “too big and enormous population” (The Miracles of St. Demetrius of Thessaloniki), “numerous as the sand by the sea” (the letter from the Kagan of Khazaria Joseph; 961 AD), “so numerous that they did not need to build fortresses for defence” (“The Bavarian Geographer”) [20]. Some similar expressions were used even by the early Bulgarian rulers Omurtag and Presian [22]. Archaeological investigations have recently revealed that proto-Bulgarians represented a substantial part (evaluated in at least 32% [23]and even 60% [13], [19]) of the early Bulgarian population. An indirect indicator of the numerousness of proto-Bulgarians was the great number of their victorious war campaigns over the powerful Eastern Roman Empire (including the crushing defeat of Byzantium by Asparukh in 680 AD [20]) and the victory over the Arabs in 716 AD, which besieged Constantinople. Only a state with an army exceeding 100,000 soldiers was capable for such attacks. Obviously, the studies mentioned above suggest that proto-Bulgarians played a substantial role in the formation of the Bulgarian people.

    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0056779


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    Asparukh = Iranic

    Proto-Bulgarians were Iranians in disguise and got assimilated by Slavs

    J/K lmao

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    Yes they were. Next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius View Post
    Bulgarians played a substantial role in the formation of the Bulgarian people.
    Really?

    Anyway, whatever theory you have, Bulgarians were not E-V13,
    becasue these were prethracian local population already existed
    before Bulgarians, Slavs, Romans, Greeks or even Thraks arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Really?

    Anyway, whatever theory you have, Bulgarians were not E-V13,
    becasue these were prethracian local population already existed
    before Bulgarians, Slavs, Romans, Greeks or even Thraks arrived.
    Pre-Thracian?? So, we're talking about E-V13 trees now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius View Post
    Pre-Thracian?? So, we're talking about E-V13 trees now?
    Yes, because it has direct relevancy with you and your problems with true Bulgarians

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    Then if not why so many Bulgarians greet Chuvash as 'Volga Bulgarians, asdasdghjfghikj lol haha:- It must be difficult to be Bulgarian. What Bulgars were isn't argued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witness View Post
    Then if not why so many Bulgarians greet Chuvash as 'Volga Bulgarians, asdasdghjfghikj lol haha:- It must be difficult to be Bulgarian. What Bulgars were isn't argued.
    I'll open a new thread: "Turkics are not Turkic - The True Story!" ,D


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    I'll open a new thread: "Turkics are not Turkic - The True Story!" ,D
    There is ground. It's like that heretic Arab, nickname Anglojew trying to hijack Khazarians for his own people. Are we considered the weakest link of the mankind?

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    Not having "Asian Y-DNA" doesn't make them non-Turkic. I'm quite sure the Turkic groups of Europe had R1a-Z280 and other 'West Eurasian' haplogroups for example.
    The Bulgars could have been Chuvash-like.

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