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    Quote Originally Posted by Tartarian Kastrioti View Post
    Its a bit ironic however, they are basically Persianized Bactrians and Sogdians aka. East Iranians speaking Persian.
    It is a bit ironic but they've been that way for ages. Plus in america, nobody knows wtf a tajik is. I hate saying I'm afghan to people because I'm technically not and that's a nationality, but at the same time not many people in America know who the pashtuns are, but they do know who afghans are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    The Slavs/Scythes roamed in Central Asia so it is no brainer where their blondism if any comes from. Their ydna (R1a) is very telling.
    Scythians and slavs are not the same thing.

    The Kalash are actually less northern genetically than the pashtuns, nuristani, etc are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    Scythians and slavs are not the same thing.

    The Kalash are actually less northern genetically than the pashtuns, nuristani, etc are.
    They were Europeans

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    Ethnic groups in Afghanistan





    Some Afghanistan Turkmens



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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    They were Europeans
    The Scythians were not Europeans. They were an Iranic group and were related to modern Eastern Iranics and Eastern Europeans. Even the branch of Indo-Iranians that went into the area mixed with BMAC and were in between modern East Euros and East Iranics. I can show an Oracle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    It is a bit ironicx but they've been that way for ages. Plus in america, nobody knows wtf a tajik is. Ihate saying I'm afghan to people because I'm technically not and that's a nationality, but at the same time not many people in America know who the pashtuns are, but they do know who afghans are.
    It is no more ironic than Lebanese, Syrians, Palestinians, etc. considering themselves Arab. Most Tajiks have been Persianized for over a millenium now. Plus most western texts present historical figures who were Tajik as "Persian"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danishmend View Post
    Ethnic groups in Afghanistan





    Some Afghanistan Turkmens


    These kind of maps are never accurate since there are many Pashtun communities in the north and west, and many areas depicted as Uzbek have substantial Tajik communities. And there are many Tajik communities in Pashtun areas in the south and east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tartarian Kastrioti View Post
    Its a bit ironic however, they are basically Persianized Bactrians and Sogdians aka. East Iranians speaking Persian.
    That's so cool. I think I've mentioned it before but one of my closest friend is a Dari speaking Afghan (so she's Tajik I guess). Whenever she speaks with someone I understand like 90% of what she says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Registan View Post
    These kind of maps are never accurate since there are many Pashtun communities in the north and west, and many areas depicted as Uzbek have substantial Tajik communities. And there are many Tajik communities in Pashtun areas in the south and east.
    I'm not an expert on ethno-religious distribution in Afghanistan, you might be right. That is what google gave me.

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    Qizilbash in Afghanistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qizilbash#Afghanistan

    Qizilbash in Afghanistan live in urban areas, such as Kabul, Herat or Mazari Sharif, as well as in certain villages in Hazarajat. They are descendants of the troops left behind by Nadir Shah during his "Indian campaign" in 1738.[43][44] Afghanistan's Qizilbash held important posts in government offices in the past, and today engage in trade or are craftsmen. Since the creation of Afghanistan, they constitute an important and politically influential element of society. Estimates of their population vary from 60,000 to 200,000.[45][46] They are Persian-speaking Shi'i Muslims and are usually linked to the Fārsīwāns and Tājīks of the country.

    Sir Mountstuart Elphinstone described the Qizilbash of Kabul in the beginning of the 19th century as "a colony of Turks," who spoke "Persian, and among themselves Turkish."[47] Described as learned, affluent, and influential, they appear to have abandoned their native Turkish language in favour of Persian, and became "in fact Persianized Turks".[48] Lady Florentia Sale (wife of Sir Robert Henry Sale) and Vincent Eyre – both companions of Sir Mountstuart Elphinstone – described the Qizilbash of Afghanistan also as "Persians, of Persian descent".[49][50]

    The influence of the Qizilbash in the government created resentment among the ruling Pashtun clans, especially after the Qizilbash openly allied themselves with the British during the First Anglo-Afghan War (1839–1842). During Abdur Rahman Khan's massacre of the Shi'i minorities in Afghanistan, the Qizilbash were declared "enemies of the state" and were persecuted and hunted by the government and by the Sunni majority.

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