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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenSon View Post
    Umobolna mapa...
    Kreteni, ne znam ko je smesniji.
    Ajde bar hrvatski Pravasi imaju neku ideologiju (iako je srbofobna mora se priznati da imaju neku ideologiju) a ove ''ustase'' sta su vec su smesni.
    Ovi vasi BPNP tripuju neke evropske nacionaliste, raspali skinsi... koja komedija.
    Last edited by Tschaikisten; 10-17-2016 at 03:28 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer
    how come the age of I2a2 Din subclade exactly coincides with the age of Bosnian Pyramids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa Nazione View Post
    Kreteni, ne znam ko je smesniji.
    Ma u lizi su sa Srbim koji mašu svastikama i keltskim latinskim križevima pod kojima su im djedove i nane klali.

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa Nazione View Post
    Ajde bar hrvatski Pravasi imaju neku ideologiju (iako je srbofobna mora se priznati da imaju neku ideologiju) a ove ''ustase'' sta su vec su smesni.
    Pravaska ideologija ima legitimitet bar u dužini postojanja.

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa Nazione View Post
    Ovi vasi BPNP tripuju neke evropske nacionaliste, raspali skinsi... koja komedija.
    Caka tu druže je što većina BPNPovaca (tj. orginalno vodstvo) jesu potomci pripadnika Handžar čije su dede se borili na strani Rajha kada je trebalo, a onda roditelji su im bili gaženi od komunista, pa imaju neki razlog za revolt. A ako su oni za Heinrich Himmlera bili "viši" u očima od njihovih srodnih nacija, nemaju šta tu potomci bivši "podljudi" pričat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenSon View Post
    Ma u lizi su sa Srbim koji mašu svastikama i keltskim latinskim križevima pod kojima su im djedove i nane klali.

    Jok, nemaju veze ovakve dileje sa srpskim treceputasima.
    Keltski krst je najpre evropski simbol, dakle samim tim i srpski, a WPWW akivisti koji ga koriste su uglavnom pro-srpski orijentisani.
    Niti su Srbi klati pod njim niti pod svastikom (Indo-evropskim simbolom).
    Drugo, ne zaboravi da su Srbi(SHS) pre 2. sv. rata imali izuzetnu saradnju sa Rajhom, ali to je neka druga tema...i ne, nisam nikakav germanofil niti nacos, samo konstatujem neke cinjenice, da se Britanci nisu umesali, Kraljevina SHS bi ostala neutralna i pitanje je sta bi bilo kad bi bilo.
    Keltski krst na spomen korsturnici na Cegru
    Spoiler!

    Keltski krst na crkvi Sv. Djordja u Beogradu.
    Spoiler!

    Caka tu druže je što većina BPNPovaca (tj. orginalno vodstvo) jesu potomci pripadnika Handžar čije su dede se borili na strani Rajha kada je trebalo, a onda roditelji su im bili gaženi od komunista, pa imaju neki razlog za revolt. A ako su oni za Heinrich Himmlera bili "viši" u očima od njihovih srodnih nacija, nemaju šta tu potomaci bivši "podljudi" pričat.
    Ma smesni su, kao i sama handzar divizija. Nikako da shvate da je Hitler tu diviziju oformio samo radi upostavljanja svog poretka i kakvog takvog reda i mira u tom delu NDH, dakle automatski ona nije imala nikakav ''svevisnji'' znacaj. Imali su i siptari svoju SS diviziju, pa i Indijci, Gruzini, Kazahstanci, ona nije merilo nicijeg ''Arijevstva''.
    Using 2 populations approximation:
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer
    how come the age of I2a2 Din subclade exactly coincides with the age of Bosnian Pyramids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa Nazione View Post
    Jok, nemaju veze ovakve dileje sa srpskim treceputasima.
    Keltski krst je najpre evropski simbol, dakle samim tim i srpski, a WPWW akivisti koji ga koriste su uglavnom pro-srpski orijentisani.
    Niti su Srbi klati pod njim niti pod svastikom (Indo-evropskim simbolom).
    Drugo, ne zaboravi da su Srbi(SHS) pre 2. sv. rata imali izuzetnu saradnju sa Rajhom, ali to je neka druga tema...i ne, nisam nikakav germanofil niti nacos, samo konstatujem neke cinjenice, da se Britanci nisu umesali, Kraljevina SHS bi ostala neutralna i pitanje je sta bi bilo kad bi bilo.
    Keltski krst na spomen korsturnici na Cegru
    Spoiler!

    Keltski krst na crkvi Sv. Djordja u Beogradu.
    Spoiler!


    Ma smesni su, kao i sama handzar divizija. Nikako da shvate da je Hitler tu diviziju oformio samo radi upostavljanja svog poretka i kakvog takvog reda i mira u tom delu NDH, dakle automatski ona nije imala nikakav ''svevisnji'' znacaj. Imali su i siptari svoju SS diviziju, pa i Indijci, Gruzini, Kazahstanci, ona nije merilo nicijeg ''Arijevstva''.
    I highly disagree (I read your post on foreign language using Google Translate). Handzar Division was the first Waffen SS formation to be non-Germanic, which gives it a special twist. Also, Himmler thought Bosniaks are Goths, he sent pictures of stećak to German SS soldiers in Germany and Austria, telling them how he found "our Gothic brothers in the south".

    Also, the lower Bosniak conscripts into Handzar likely had no ideology behind them, but the ring leaders who arranged it indeed did (the arrangement was made by former reis-ul-ulema of Kingdom Yugoslavia and members of late Mehmed Spaho's JMO party amongst others).
    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer
    Also, Himmler thought Bosniaks are Goths, he sent pictures of stećak to German SS soldiers in Germany and Austria, telling them how he found "our Gothic brothers in the south".
    As we can see by Ydna, Bosniaks are predominantly Slavs, not Gots/Germans. Chill out with that nazi bulshit
    handzar Division was the first Waffen SS formation to be non-Germanic, which gives it a special twist.
    Actually, first non-german SS unit was been Indian Legion
    You trying to present Handzar division fighters as a special units rofl
    All non-german SS division, like 1st Estonian, Skenderbeu, Handzar, Charlemagne, Lützow etc was been simply a sock puppet formations.
    Their job was been to save peace in sock puppet countries.

    S prodorom Crvene Armije i sve većim ruskim uspjesima, Handžar divizija je premještena na Istočni Front, što je značilo kraj divizije, jer su mnogi vojnici počeli bježati iz vodova nazad u Bosnu i Hercegovinu, ne želeći se boriti u drugim državama.

    Handžar Divizija se predala britanskim trupama 8. maja 1945. godine.
    U septembru 1944. su se dogodila masovna dezertiranja vojnika divizije, a podjeljeni ostaci su prebačeni na front u donjem toku Drine. Ovdje su krajem oktobra stigli ostaci raspadnute 1. brdske divizije, koja je u Beogradskoj operaciji ostala bez teškog naoružanja i motorizacije. U akciji koja je dovela do privremene tenzije između hijerarhije Vermahta i SS hijerarhije, 1. Brdska divizija je prisilno razoružala nepouzdane dijelove divizije Handžar divizije da ne bi naoruzali sami sebe (operacija Herbstlaub 25. oktobar). U oktobru, u diviziji je bilo 279 oficira, 1.611 podoficira, 4.125 vojnika - Nemaca . Prema depeši, drugo osoblje Rajhsfirer SS Panzer armije od 11. novembra, odnos njemačkog i muslimanskog kadra u diviziji je smanjen na 1: 1. [36]

    Divizija je početkom decembra prebačena u Baranju i Mađarskoj, gdje se nakon prelaska Dunava od strane Crvene armije (Batinska bitka) otvorila kriza njemačke odbrane. U Mađarskoj su kadrovi 13 SS Divizije je služili za formiranje 9. SS korpusa.
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Croatian +50% Serbian @ 2.265001

    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer
    how come the age of I2a2 Din subclade exactly coincides with the age of Bosnian Pyramids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa Nazione View Post
    As we can see by Ydna, Bosniaks are predominantly Slavs, not Gots/Germans. Chill out with that nazi bulshit

    Actually, first non-german SS unit was been Indian Legion
    You trying to present Handzar division fighters as a special units rofl
    All non-german SS division, like 1st Estonian, Skenderbeu, Handzar, Charlemagne, Lützow etc was been simply a sock puppet formations.
    Their job was been to save peace in sock puppet countries.
    Just want to drop in that legion does not equal "SS".
    http://www.deviantart.com/art/Three-Germanic-Groups-474318708

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    Quote Originally Posted by Styrian Mujo View Post
    Just want to drop in that legion does not equal "SS".
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Croatian +50% Serbian @ 2.265001

    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer
    how come the age of I2a2 Din subclade exactly coincides with the age of Bosnian Pyramids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa Nazione View Post
    As we can see by Ydna, Bosniaks are predominantly Slavs, not Gots/Germans. Chill out with that nazi bulshit

    Actually, first non-german SS unit was been Indian Legion
    You trying to present Handzar division fighters as a special units rofl
    All non-german SS division, like 1st Estonian, Skenderbeu, Handzar, Charlemagne, Lützow etc was been simply a sock puppet formations.
    Their job was been to save peace in sock puppet countries.
    Most things that you said are understable, but the part about Slavic Y-dna is just funny. Read more about I2a2.
    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    Most things that you said are understable, but the part about Slavic Y-dna is just funny. Read more about I2a2.
    First, it's not I2a2, it's I2a1b Dinaric subclade.
    It's definitely not originaly Slavic, but it was been part of ethnogenesis of Slavs with R1a and N1a.
    It's like all I, paleo-european, descended from Cro-magnons.
    You must stop reading bulshit nationalist propaganda about genetics, there is no place for nationalistic view about haplogroups, just facts.
    Using 2 populations approximation:
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer
    how come the age of I2a2 Din subclade exactly coincides with the age of Bosnian Pyramids?

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    Once again, proof that Bosniaks are lords compared to croat peasants.

    BPNP: Focuses on Bosniak identity, Bosnian territory, accepts anyone in Bosnia that is not against Bosniak people or the country of Bosnia

    NDH: Claims parts of other countries, doesn't recognize Serbia, needs approval of other nationalists(supporters of Greater Bulgaria) doesn't recognize other people and use a Serbian source to "prove" that Bosniaks and Montenegrins are croats.



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