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    Default Do SE Asians have some West Eurasian ancestry?

    Do you know if SE Asians like Thais, Malays, Cambodians, Indonesians, Burmese have some West Eurasian admix and how much? I heard South Indians have around 40-50% of their genomes derived from ANI or West Eurasia.

    I heard that they have a lot of interactions with South Indians like trading, cultural, religious and even likely many intermarriages between two groups and assimilation of South Indians into the SE Asian society.

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    I think Indonesians and Burmese probably have the most.

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    Burmese people look like a mix between Thais and Indians

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    I think Indonesians and Burmese probably have the most.
    I read there is a really big Indian community in Burma which dates back to the days of the British India. So likely a lot of intermarriages between the two groups.

    Yes Indonesia, I think there are a lot of intermarriages between Indians and Arab traders and local Indonesians. I read of many Indonesians who say they have Yemeni or some Arabian ancestor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkin Waziri Sanusi View Post
    I read there is a really big Indian community in Burma which dates back to the days of the British India. So likely a lot of intermarriages between the two groups.

    Yes Indonesia, I think there are a lot of intermarriages between Indians and Arab traders and local Indonesians. I read of many Indonesians who say they have Yemeni or some Arabian ancestor.
    most of them are Bengalis (in Rakhine State) and are muslims .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkin Waziri Sanusi View Post
    I read there is a really big Indian community in Burma which dates back to the days of the British India. So likely a lot of intermarriages between the two groups.

    Yes Indonesia, I think there are a lot of intermarriages between Indians and Arab traders and local Indonesians. I read of many Indonesians who say they have Yemeni or some Arabian ancestor.
    I think you are talking about the Rohinga, who are basically Muslim Bengalis (Bangladeshis), they are widely discriminated against in Myanmar.

    I've noticed that Indonesians seem to have a different look from other Malayan peoples like Malaysia or Filipinos. I think certain regions probably absorbed a number of South Asian and Middle Eastern admixture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    I think you are talking about the Rohinga, who are basically Muslim Bengalis (Bangladeshis), they are widely discriminated against in Myanmar.

    I've noticed that Indonesians seem to have a different look from other Malayan peoples like Malaysia or Filipinos. I think certain regions probably absorbed a number of South Asian and Middle Eastern admixture.
    Im not sure if Burmese officials count Rohingya as part of the Indian community or not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmese_Indians
    It says they are around 2% of population in 2011 census. Also I also heard from a Burmese maid in my house that there are Indians in Myanmar which they are also known by the derogatory term "Kala" which means Black in Hindi.

    Yes there are many Indonesians with Arab ancestors of mainly Yemeni descent from Hadhramaut: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Indonesians
    And yes certain regions of Indonesia like in Aceh and other parts of Sumatra, I think have significant Indian and Arab/Middle Eastern admixture. An Indonesian member in anthroscape said that he thinks Acehnese ethnic group have one of the most Caucasoid admixture in SE Asia. In fact there is even rumor of an Indonesian village of Portuguese descent in Aceh. They are said to some European features in their mostly SE Asian phenotypes: http://oldblog.aseankorea.org/archives/17377
    http://syukriyah94.blogspot.com/2012...slim-blue.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkin Waziri Sanusi View Post
    I read there is a really big Indian community in Burma which dates back to the days of the British India. So likely a lot of intermarriages between the two groups.

    Yes Indonesia, I think there are a lot of intermarriages between Indians and Arab traders and local Indonesians. I read of many Indonesians who say they have Yemeni or some Arabian ancestor.
    Burmese don't mix with Rohingya people cose they are muslims and this is a big big problem in Myanmar.

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    Apparently it's the 'Eurasia K9 ASI' gedmatch calculator that will separate the ASI from the West-Eurasian in South Asians...The West-Eurasian/CHG will for sure be higher in Thais-Malays-Cambodians-Indonesians-Burmese than in Filipinos; Filipino are more likely to have higher WHG and ENF from Spanish influence I would think.

    Here's my results:


    -I don't have any kit #'s for other SE-Asians though but I'd love to see some of their results for this calculator!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazouzu View Post
    Apparently it's the 'Eurasia K9 ASI' gedmatch calculator that will separate the ASI from the West-Eurasian in South Asians...The West-Eurasian/CHG will for sure be higher in Thais-Malays-Cambodians-Indonesians-Burmese than in Filipinos; Filipino are more likely to have higher WHG and ENF from Spanish influence I would think.

    Here's my results:

    -I don't have any kit #'s for other SE-Asians though but I'd love to see some of their results for this calculator!
    Hmm can you try Iran Neolithic K6 or Gedrosia ANE K6?

    Unfortunately Cambodians are the only Southeast Asian population that I saw in calculators that break ASI and West Eurasian components.

    In Iran Neolithic K6 and ANE K6, Cambodians are around 7% and 6.3% West Eurasian (Iran Neolithic+Natufian for the former, ANE+Natufian for the latter). You can also find both calculators here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1108042089

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