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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikula View Post
    Husem to nezačalo. Hus se pouze hodil jako zdůvodnění.
    Mikulo, chápeš co znamená kořeny něčeho. Když najednou dostaneš cukrovku, tak důvodem není, že jsi se půl hodiny předtím díval na romatickou přeslazenou komedii, ale střádalo se na to roky. Toto jestejný případ. V Bohémii byly Husem zasety sklony k atheismu, tím jak pak Habsburkové násilně konvertovali Bohémy ke katolicismu, odpor k církvi sílil. To, co se událo v devatenáctém století, vyrostlo na tomto podhoubí. Kdyby už tehdy nebyl odpor ke katolíkům, tak by se v náboženství jelo dál.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnolia View Post
    Mikulo, chápeš co znamená kořeny něčeho. Když najednou dostaneš cukrovku, tak důvodem není, že jsi se půl hodiny předtím díval na romatickou přeslazenou komedii, ale střádalo se na to roky. Toto jestejný případ. V Bohémii byly Husem zasety sklony k atheismu, tím jak pak Habsburkové násilně konvertovali Bohémy ke katolicismu odpor k církvi sílil. To, co se událo v devatenáctém století vyrostlo na tomto podhoubí. Kdyby už tehdy nebyl odpor ke katolíkům, tak by se v náboženství jelo dál.
    Real history and their inerpretation is not the same thing. Deal with it

    Luther also started a resistance against the authority of Pope and catholic clergy. Does it means that Luther started the same process what (by your favorite interpretation) started at Bohemia by Hus and led to the atheism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikula View Post
    Real history and their inerpretation is not the same thing. Deal with it

    Luther also started a resistance against the authority of Pope and catholic clergy. Does it means that Luther started the same process what (by your favorite interpretation) started at Bohemia by Hus and led to the atheism?
    It is a different thing. What about Habsburgs and re-catholization? Bohemian!!! history is full of resistance against the Catholic Church. I would like to see a person who believes in God and suddenly stops because of a new wave of intellectuals... your theory doesn't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnolia View Post
    It is a different thing. What about Habsburgs and re-catholization? Bohemian!!! history is full of resistance against the Catholic Church. I would like to see a person believes in God suddenly stops because of a new wave of intellectuals... your theory doesn't make sense.
    I hate to say it but re-catholization of Bohemia and Moravia (Silesia was a special case) was a succesfull process.
    Yes, enclaves of protestants survived (and after Edict of Tolerance, became visible), but generally, each new generation after 30 Years War became more and more catholic.
    Reversal appeared in the end of 19th Century, actually.

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    Off topic:
    Which religion in our country has the highest increase, percentuallly (thanks to immigration)?

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    Number of believers in 2011 - percentually
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    You sure that Hus hadn't planted the seeds for it all? Every European nation had atheistic intellectuals in the 19th century, after all. Czech just could have been lapsed Catholics compared to the Catholics elsewhere.

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    good, i have a lot of respect for them for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    You sure that Hus hadn't planted the seeds for it all? Every European nation had atheistic intellectuals in the 19th century, after all. Czech just could have been lapsed Catholics compared to the Catholics elsewhere.
    I think that Hus will be very upset listening it.
    Hus was a catholic priest, and despite the fact that he was burned at stalk as a heretic, he considered himself as a true christian.
    Hussites - his followers were more radical than Hus, but they were everything but atheists. They were fanatically religious.
    Percentage of freethinkers, agnostics and atheists among the Czechs were since 19th century higher (and increasing), comapring with another nations.
    But what had Hus and Hussites common with it?

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    Is the Czech Reoubluc even less religious than Estonia?

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