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    Default Huangtian Shangdi:Chinese supreme God,Sky Daddy

    Shangdi is supreme God in China,First occured in oracle bones in Shang dynasty,perhaps in Xia dynasty.He has no idol,He is the giver of Mandate of Heaven.


    Sacrifice to Heaven is annual Sacrifice to Him,the Sacrificed cattle or beast required no bloodshed,Guy who killed them called 神厨“God’s Chef”,So they have to suffocate the cattle.They will lit the bonfire and burn the beast,Let the smoke pillar through the sky,People of the Wu will dance around the Bonfire.



    Jewish God yahweh has another name called "El shaddai",A possible connection,Or Shangdi is the original yahweh.Later Christians in China translate their "God" into the word"Shangdi"also.

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    Heirloom Seal of the Realm,Mandate of heaven Seal,sacred object."Having received the Mandate from Heaven, may (the emperor) lead a long and prosperous life."

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    Shangdi`s idollessness is similar to zionism and Talmudism, based on superstitious ascension of ancestral spirits. Idolless Tian is not a chinese god but mongolomanchu-korean/鞑子/鞑虏 god. I also pointed out that Confucianism is similar to Talmudic system as well, an atheistic cult dedicated to ancestral worship and personality ascension. Confucianism has a hand in propagating steppe animism in China in a form of disguised Tengriism as described above by OP: sky as a literal god and a mandate giver to emperors.

    It is characterized by shamanism, totemism, and animism. It is both monotheistic and polytheistic. Ancestor worship is also a big part of Tengriism. The chief deity in Tengriism is Tengri or the Sky God, who is unknowable, infinite and timeless.
    --The Ancient Religion of Tengriism - Discover Mongolia Travel

    The term shamanism comes from the Manchu-Tungus word šaman. The noun is formed from the verb ša- ‘to know’; thus, a shaman is literally “one who knows.” The shamans recorded in historical ethnographies have included women, men, and transgender individuals of every age from middle childhood onward.
    --Britannica

    The real religion worships life, like Christianity and Buddhism, sky as a literal object of mandate giver is a sign of savage animism.

    Oracle bone writings are exposed to be forgeries, at least majority of them. There are unknown amounts of archaeological forgeries in China that everybody who is concerned with history should beware of. China has a long history of populace deception and coverups and historical, testimonial, perjurial forgeries of which most chinese people are still being kept in deep ignorance. Chinese civilization is like ape`s dna compared to homo-sapient`s, longer and more encoded, but only serves to put shackles on peoples mind to thwart any positive development.
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    China's earliest religion was shamanic ancestor worship. They used to have many gods (most of who were deified ancestor spirits) ruling Heaven and early traditions named Shangdi as the chief of this system, followed by Jade Emperor in the 11th century. When Christian missionaries arrived in China there used to be a debate whether Shangdi or Jade Emperor was appropriate in naming the Almighty, in order to tap into existing Chinese beliefs similar to how ancient Greeks under Epimenides made altars to an unknown God which was supposedly the God of the Bible, as Paul the Apostle told them later.

    However, there are non-Abrahamic equivalents to the Sky Daddy in other cultures.

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    As far as I understand – in Buddhism, the Eternal Blue Sky refers to a realization of the Absolute Truth beyond the Relative, but this also relates to Shamanism (Tengrism) as well:
    http://balkhandshambhala.blogspot.co...ncake-sky.html

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    Ken Wilber is attempting to explain this “Cosmic Blue Pancake” in his Emptiness/Form talk:


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    Music for uniting the Earth & Sky imo.
    The vast Emptiness of Space and the temporal, impermanent Living & Other Forms arising within it:

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    My modern ARYAN religion, the Yezidism, also related to the Mithraism in the ancient times, is connection to the main religion of Japan (Shinto). Ancient proto-Aryan religion (related to the Yezidism/Melek Taus) is much older than the Zoroastrianism!








    http://www.shamogoloparvaneh.com/An_...st_Asia_V2.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guti View Post
    My modern ARYAN religion, the Yezidism, also related to the Mithraism in the ancient times, is connection to the main religion of Japan (Shinto). Ancient proto-Aryan religion (related to the Yezidism/Melek Taus) is much older than the Zoroastrianism!
    But …. doesn’t Melek Ta'us, the 'Peacock Angel', the 'Sacred Lamp' refer to the Light ‘awakened to and functional in the Absolute’) people carry & radiate?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aila View Post
    But …. doesn’t Melek Ta'us, the 'Peacock Angel', the 'Sacred Lamp' refer to the Light ‘awakened to and functional in the Absolute’) people carry & radiate?
    Tawûsê Melek is an emanation of the Sky God (Sumerian sky God Shamash) and is more or less a creator of the cosmos from the 'Cosmic Egg'. Our ancient prehistoric version of the Big Bang, before people even knew about the Big Bang.








    Interestingly enough almost all the ancient cultures mention 'The Cosmic Egg' concept in their creation myths.

    -Pelasgian
    -Finnish
    -Persian
    -Slavic
    -Chinese
    -Egyptian
    -Polynesian
    -Greek
    -Hindu
    -Dogon
    -Japanese
    -Bantu
    -Phoenician
    -Polynesian
    -Zoroastrian




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