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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    according to the shown map Cyprus has a surprisingly higher proficient level compared to the rest of the Southern European countries
    Cyprus is a country where almost every town and village is a resort welcoming European tourists, people there need to speak English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lioncourt View Post
    Cyprus is a country where almost every town and village is a resort welcoming European tourists, people there need to speak English.
    So does Greece nowadays. My village for example is near ancient Olympia. I was surprised to know that locals, even some of the older generations, knew English very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno of Citium View Post
    So does Greece nowadays. My village for example is near ancient Olympia. I was surprised to know that locals, even some of the older generations, knew English very well.
    I don't get it, if it's your village, why is it a surprise?
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    This map is not meant to be taken seriously, like the majority of self-reported studies.

    It is one thing to think that you are able to hold a conversation in English (even if you do not, this is self-reported after all), another thing is real proficiency.






    Source: https://www.ef.edu.pt/epi/
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    i thought i was really good in english all throughout high school bc i was always the best of my classes... and all the teachers were impressed but now, idk if it's bc i don't practice speaking it as much as in high school, i got worse, or bc i was never that good to begin with and everyone around me was just so bad it made me look native lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post


    This map is not meant to be taken seriously, like the majority of self-reported studies.

    It is one thing to think that you are able to hold a conversation in English (even if you do not, this is self-reported after all), another thing is real proficiency.






    Source: https://www.ef.edu.pt/epi/
    It still seems low for Greece. The percentage of people that have an officially recognised degree for English proficiency is higher than 59%, as shown in the image. In particular, there are two degrees that show the level of proficiency in Greece, and see of international outreach: C2 Cambridge English: Proficiency (CPE) and ECPE, provided by the University of Michigan and distributed by the Hellenic American Union. The first one is the one I gave, and is the less popular choice amongst Greeks. The latter, ECPE, is much more popular and given by the vast majority of students. It's by a vast difference the most popular for generations here. Almost everyone under 50 has taken these tests as a whole. And people until the age of 50 are the vast majority of the population as a whole (over 70%).

    And, for the Netherlands, I believe the official proficiency levels cannot be only 70%, taking into consideration that English, along with German, are taught to all children, with the latter being a subject of choice, for decades now in official education. Same for Sweden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    I don't get it, if it's your village, why is it a surprise?
    I don't have that much close of a communication with my village as a whole. In fact I don't have any at all. I only speak with my grandma. This is the sole reason my family and I still visit our village.
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    im practical

    aslong you understand that I am trying to insult you, I reached my goal.

    Speaking English is a waaaay other task than writing, I tried hard to erase my German accent but it seems impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    im practical

    aslong you understand that I am trying to insult you, I reached my goal.

    Speaking English is a waaaay other task than writing, I tried hard to erase my German accent but it seems impossible.

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    How many native languages are there in the British Isles? I make it 12.

    1. English
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