Estonian Identity

[Murphy]

This is one of the greatest troll-threads ever. Lodd, you pwn.

[poiuytrewq0987]

The news organization took it's information from Transparency International, the chart I looked at was from Transparency International.

That could only mean two things, either your data is old or inaccurate. This data is from 2009 and Estonia is ranked the same as Slovenia and Cyprus.

[Loki]

... no one can argue about Estonians(the people) being Nordic.

I must disagree, sorry Karl. It is possible to include them in the Nordic group of Scandinavia + Finland, but not all agree on this classification. I for one don't. I think Baltic is a more accurate description. If someone says "Nordic" I think Swedish, Norwegian or Danish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries

But, I do not want to hijack Loddfafner's thread, which is meant to sidestep this matter entirely. So I won't respond again on this thread.

[Wyn]

Let's look at the facts...

- It's a Baltic country geographically, nobody can deny that.
- It end's in -ia in its English language name (the most important factor in this discussion).

The only conclusion is that Estonia is an Eastern European country.

/thread. You're welcome, Lodd.

[Äike]

Eastern.

What do I share with Ukrainians, Serbians, Romanians, Russians and Bulgarians?

Estonia in a category with Scandinavia, Ireland, and Benelux? No.

Well, Estonians share more cultural ties with Western-Europeans than Eastern-Europeans. We live west of the historic border between the Westerners and the Easterners.



There's a reason why the Soviets called Estonia and Estonians the West/the Westerners of the USSR.

[poiuytrewq0987]

[esaima]

- It end's in -ia in its English language name (the most important factor in this discussion).

Perhaps Estonia needs a new name?
Estony?

[Wyn]

What do I share with Ukrainians, Serbians, Romanians, Russians and Bulgarians?

All your countries' names end in -ia in the English language.

Well, Estonians share more cultural ties with Western-Europeans than Eastern-Europeans. We live west of the historic border between the Westerners and the Easterners.

Let's be honest...do you think many Western Europeans consider Estonians to be Western Europeans with them? And what cultural ties would Estonians share with the Scandinavians and Irish?

[Äike]

I must disagree, sorry Karl. It is possible to include them in the Nordic group of Scandinavia + Finland, but not all agree on this classification. I for one don't. I think Baltic is a more accurate description. If someone says "Nordic" I think Swedish, Norwegian or Danish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries

But, I do not want to hijack Loddfafner's thread, which is meant to sidestep this matter entirely. So I won't respond again on this thread.

The term Baltic stopped being a geographical term after Finland was removed from the definition.

If you want to describe Estonian culture with 1 word, then Nordic fits us better than Baltic.

[San Galgano]

LOL
I don't get why the fuck Italy is always put into every discussion all over the board.
Here we are talking about Estonia, in another thread a russian started attack with no sense italians even if any italians attacked russians.

What you guys would do without Italy?