Albanians, indigenous in kosovo?

[Ushtari]

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BwI...lhYTk4NDUyMDUw

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BwI...Q0NTE3ZDM1MzAy

Nice try, but Albanians were in majority already in beginning of 20 century.



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[Panopticon]

are 1800s albs even the same that suddenly appeared in the 1100s?
I mean we had the turks coming in, and they were busy using bandits they had dragged up from the east.. gypsies being welldocumented enough, that then settled the lands.

Meanwhile, the albs religion quickly shifted aswell.

One thing should be clear, they are not illyrians. Those were killed and wiped out by a dozen or so great genocides since their time.

The Turks left no genetic traces worth menitoning in Albanians or in the Balkans in general.


Our religion started to change in 16th-17th century for the most part, that's not a 'quick shift'.

The Orthodox church was favoured over the Catholic church; most Albanians being Catholics were affected by that. The former had no capital and center to adhere to (Constantinopel had already been taken by the Turks), so there was no greater power which could use the Orthodox in the Balkans.

Furthermore, the Orthodox church itself has continuously played a political role where they co-operated with the state (being the Ottoman empire in this case), which is related to the aforementioned lack of "Orthodox center". That has been seen quite recently, the role of the Orthodox church under the Soviet empire f. e.

However, the Catholic church did have a center: Rome. And the powers standing in the way of further Ottoman expansion and which competed for power with the Ottomans were Catholic (Habsburgs f. e.). This meant that Catholics in the Balkans were disfavoured and would suffer to a greater extent under the Ottoman rule; they were treated with suspicion due to their affiliation with Rome and the Habsburgs. Later, the Serbs inherited this suspicion of Catholics from the Ottomans.

In Kosova and in the North, for example, we see that the Catholic church lost ground because there was a lack of clergymen who could hold ceremons and such. There's evidence of complaints over that from Catholic clergymen, Pjetër Bogdani f. e., who sent letters to Rome complaining over the lack of clergymen and that the Catholic church is losing its base in those territories.

We see that the only territories in the Balkans with a large, native Muslim population (Bosnia and Albania) are those where both the Orthodox and Catholic church existed. Probably the competition between the two meant that none could get a monopoly on believers, leaving a void for which another religion could fill.

We're the descendants of the Illyrians. You're going to have to prove that we're not.

That said, why does everyone seriously expect us to deal with every unsubtantiated, spurious and ignorant opinion and claim?