Most OWD ethnicity?

[Ascended]

You can see my results here

No one is OWD because they don't like certain people or culture. I don't have to be politically correct. Since you mention Morocco; I still have not forgotten those Scandinavian girls who got butchered there. I have a problem with the heavily corrupt radical Islamic Sharia mindset and I see it as a threat to Ataturk's vision of my country. I do not sympathize with a kind of a society that scores over at least 50 percent here:



And Turks are right when they don't accept to be forced into a specific mold. Turkey is not a homogeneous country like Greece or Armenia or Bulgaria, ther are people from varying backgrounds and ideologies, I'm responsible for myself and my own views.

So much has changed since we kast used to go back and forth, Turkey will soon purge itself of the Munafiqoon and I'm so happy.

That chart you linked is old and makes no sense 42% of Russian Muslims want Sharia but only 8% Azeris?

Russian Muslims ARE Azeris, north caucasians etc.

Fake chart with manipulated data

[Ryujin]

So much has changed since we kast used to go back and forth, Turkey will soon purge itself of the Munafiqoon and I'm so happy.

That chart you linked is old and makes no sense 42% of Russian Muslims want Sharia but only 8% Azeris?

Russian Muslims ARE Azeris, north caucasians etc.

Fake chart with manipulated data

You're not much up to date about the recent developments in Turkey. The government has lost much of its popular support and the opposition is likely to win the next elections as the polls indicate. Not to mention that the last year the opposition won in Istanbul and Ankara.

Well; in any case, no one has the power in Turkey to change the current secular Republican regime and re-install Caliphate. There is not ground support for such a proposition.

Also religiosity is on a massive decline. Turkey is not going any more backward than this, because the youth is mostly secular and Kemalist. Your backward mindset is losing ground in every part of the world, not just Turkey anyway.

And lol at being surprised by how Azeris view Sharia. Azeri Turks are one of the most secularized people in Europe. They give little shit about religion. I haven't seen a single Azeri woman who wears headscarf lol. Armenians are much more religious than Azeris.

Those Russian muslims are mostly Chechens, who are mostly radicalized.

[Ryujin]

Exactly. If one landmark could symbolize Turkey in a nutshell, it would be the Bosphorus Bridge, rather than Ayasofya or Sultan Ahmed mosque. Turkey is not only a natural bridge between two continents, but between two cultures.
Turks are one of the most heterogeneous peoples of Eurasia, and possibly of the entire world. It's funny that many members admit that Russia can have two identities at the same time, European and Asian, Slavic and Ural-Altaic, but deny the Turks that same right (exclusively Asian).

In regards to Moroccans, they are the most illiterate people (73,75% literacy rate in 2018) in all the Arab world. Expect to find more rapers per square Kilometer there than in Tunisia or Lebanon, which have a higher Human Development Index and happen to be the two Arab countries with the highest literacy rate (and are also much more secularized).
Nonetheless, criminality is not genetically linked to an ethnicity in particular, and to be honest with you, this awful crime had as much of a chance to occur in the Taurus mountains thirty years ago, when illiteracy was almost as high in Turkey (79,23 in 1990) as it is in Morocco nowadays.

I claim that Turkey is Eurasian culturally. And politically I believe Turkey should continue with the EU path. It's in our best interests to maintain the civilized law. For example; there's this Istanbul Convention which was brought up by the EU; many countries have signed it including Turkey to combat all kinds of violence and discrimination against women but some conservatives are still protesting, even Poland has quit, claiming that it harms the 'family'. The AKP government has also expressed intention to quit the Istanbul Convention but thankfully the opposition has succesfully ran a popular campaign defending it and we are clear for now. As I've said before; the opposition has grown much stronger in Turkey... All polls indicate that the current mayor of Istanbul is likely to win the next general election. Turkey will go back to its factory settings and become a solid Kemalist state again.

Tunisia is more secular because it had a great leader called Bourguiba who was a fan of Ataturk and followed his path by banning polygamy and encouraging people to stop wearing burqas. Lebanon on the other hand is not even majority Muslim so I don't count that.

[Herr Galke]

What does OWD mean?

[Lexx]

South Europeans, North Africans, West Asians, Turks and Latins who are obsessed with being as pale, blonde and blue eyed as the far north and ashamed of more exotic looking people within their own ethnicity and even disown them, regardless if they as individuals are pale / have a lighter appearance or not.

[Kamal900]

I claim that Turkey is Eurasian culturally. And politically I believe Turkey should continue with the EU path. It's in our best interests to maintain the civilized law. For example; there's this Istanbul Convention which was brought up by the EU; many countries have signed it including Turkey to combat all kinds of violence and discrimination against women but some conservatives are still protesting, even Poland has quit, claiming that it harms the 'family'. The AKP government has also expressed intention to quit the Istanbul Convention but thankfully the opposition has succesfully ran a popular campaign defending it and we are clear for now. As I've said before; the opposition has grown much stronger in Turkey... All polls indicate that the current mayor of Istanbul is likely to win the next general election. Turkey will go back to its factory settings and become a solid Kemalist state again.

Tunisia is more secular because it had a great leader called Bourguiba who was a fan of Ataturk and followed his path by banning polygamy and encouraging people to stop wearing burqas. Lebanon on the other hand is not even majority Muslim so I don't count that.

Tunisia is the most secular country in the Arab world. As for Lebanon, well, it's a very sectarian nation, but it's also secular, yeah. I sure hope so, bro.

[Melki]

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BS, as usual

Let the haters hate

I claim that Turkey is Eurasian culturally. And politically I believe Turkey should continue with the EU path. It's in our best interests to maintain the civilized law. For example; there's this Istanbul Convention which was brought up by the EU; many countries have signed it including Turkey to combat all kinds of violence and discrimination against women but some conservatives are still protesting, even Poland has quit, claiming that it harms the 'family'. The AKP government has also expressed intention to quit the Istanbul Convention but thankfully the opposition has succesfully ran a popular campaign defending it and we are clear for now. As I've said before; the opposition has grown much stronger in Turkey... All polls indicate that the current mayor of Istanbul is likely to win the next general election. Turkey will go back to its factory settings and become a solid Kemalist state again.

Tunisia is more secular because it had a great leader called Bourguiba who was a fan of Ataturk and followed his path by banning polygamy and encouraging people to stop wearing burqas. Lebanon on the other hand is not even majority Muslim so I don't count that.

The problem is that Islam has always been a source of political identity. So-called moderated Muslims are simply not religious.
According to a recent poll, 74% oif young French Muslims think that religious beliefs prevail over the Law. They are much more indoctrinated than their elders.
Macron vows to fight Islamic separatism.

And when I look at Turkey, I'm not as optimistic as you.
Don't forget that recently:
-Ayasofya was turned back into a mosque, without anyone batting an eyelid.
-2 weeks ago, there were mass protests in Turkey like in all over the Muslim world because Charlie Hebdo decided to
republish its Mohammed cartoons. In Istanbul, a group of devotees honored the brothers Kouachi's memory.
Ascended was right to say that your data is outdated. Turkish Muslims are getting more and more radicalized.

On the other hand, it's a true fact that Albania, Bosnia, Kosovo, Azerbaijan and Central Asia are the most secularized countries in the Ummah. You will hardly hear a call to prayer in Baku or Bishkek. Few religious symbols will be displayed, let alone the traditional hijabs for elderly women.
What's the common point between these countries? All of them used to be part of the Socialist Bloc.

What if Marxism-Leninism was more efficient at quenching the flames of radical Islam than Bourguibism or your Kemalism?

[placebo]

Almost all Turks proud their Central Asian roots how can we OWD? lol. Refusing to be identified as Middle Eastern ≠ OWD.

[Mejgusu]

Almost all Turks proud their Central Asian roots how can we OWD? lol. Refusing to be identified as Middle Eastern ≠ OWD.

Dear placebo, I don’t wanna repeat this. But Turks refusing being Middle or Near Eastern is not necessarily owd(but many times it is), but it is always incredibly dumb. Turkmens, Uzbeks, Azeris, Caucasian Turks, all blossoms of Turkic world have similar culture to Middle/Near Eastern people and everyone who refuses it is either a liar, idiot or both. You live in Istanbul right, didn’t you meet Turkics, you will notice they are even much more „Middle Eastern“ in terms of culture regarding religion and traditions. Turks are wannabe Europeans(not in terms of racial nonsense) why we refuse it, being secular and moderate doesn’t necessarily means you aren’t Middle Eastern, only ignorants think that. Accept it, Turkiye(not Turkey, don’t use it or I report you), is Middle/Near East.

[Roy]

Maghrebis.