Any interesting family histories?

[Valmont]

My great grandmother (the mother of my grandfather) who was 28 years old at the time,married my great grandfather when he was 16. Still a story that i can't quite grasp,but for some reason it was totally accepted by her family,a very odd phenomenon for a pre WWII greek village. I was lucky to meet both of them

Yes, that's very uncommon. Was your great grandmother a widow when she met your great grandfather?

[Hithaeglir]

Yes, that's very uncommon. Was your great grandmother a widow when she met your great grandfather?

No she was unmarried

[Smitty]

Well this is the high middle ages and there was a clear distinction between legitimate and illegitimate children. Most men had lots of illegitimate kids, women didn't!

They needed a legit heir born to their legit wife. But they could totally boink other women if they wanted to and they did.

They would rarely recognize them though.

Henri the 1st, William's heir and youngest son, only had two legitimate kids and about 21-24 illegitimate children. (9 sons and 12 to 15 daughters). He recognized most of them and is famous for that.

Out of his two legitimate children, a boy and a girl, his son (and heir) died in a shipwreck. His daughter Matilda became the legitimate heir to the thrown and could have become the first queen of england if her cousin hadn't taken the throne from her which led to a civil war.

And we (I, at least) think of people as saints back then. I really need to read more European history.

[Aodhan]

Nop, my family left Italy because they were poor and came to Brazil to stay poor

now they are all dead and I am poor

[Valmont]

And we (I, at least) think of people as saints back then. I really need to read more European history.

Hahaha yes! Nobles back then were nothing but sophisticated.

I could go on for hours but I'll try to make it short.

Basically you wanted to keep the best warriors by your side when you needed them. So you had to reward them by giving them lands and titles. You could also make sure they would look out for your profits on strategic areas of your kingdom / county / duchy / lands etc.

But they quickly realized that the best soldiers were rarely the most moral. That's when they decided to create "chivalry". To create a code of honor and the ultimate reward. You would basically give them a sacred and moral training.

But it took a long time to implement. Rape and murders were extremely common. They would massacre each other in their own families.

[Jehan]

Nop, my family left Italy because they were poor and came to Brazil to stay poor

now they are all dead I am poor

But you perpetuate a family tradition by being poor, that's something.

[Valmont]

One of my great grandfather made the travel to USA to works for some years and come back in europe. He gone to USA twice in fact. To pay the boat he worked on coal bunker.
That's not especially an historical fact but thats' rather unusual for an immigrant to USA to choose to voluntary come back to europe. Maybe some americans who knows will confirm or not, but most/all people who go to USA settle there and made their family comes.

One of my grandfather has fought in fascist army. His wife (my grandmother) was a communist. I never heard how they end up together and how their weedding was working but I find it pretty funny. That's like WWII romeo and juliet.

Yes, your family is one of the rare instances of people migrating back to Europe. Did your great grandfather meet your great grandmother before he went to America?

[Aodhan]

But you perpetuate a family tradition by being poor, that's something.

I am thinking in make an epic crossover: I will move to Italy, get rich and make my future generation rich

[Jehan]

Yes, your family is one of the rare instances of people migrating back to Europe. Did your great grandfather meet your great grandmother before he went to America?

His case is pretty strange, I even ask myself if he wasn't a criminal and return to europe to avoid trouble. Because it seems he came back with some money in the pockets.

Not sure, but I think he was already married, but I don't think it would be a problem to make her (and the childs) enter in USA.

[Smitty]

Hahaha yes! Nobles back then were nothing but sophisticated.

I could go on for hours but I'll try to make it short.

Basically you wanted to keep the best warriors by your side when you needed them. So you had to reward them by giving them lands and titles. You could also make sure they would look out for your profits on strategic areas of your kingdom / county / duchy / lands etc.

But they quickly realized that the best soldiers were rarely the most moral. That's when they decided to create "chivalry". To create a code of honor and the ultimate reward. You would basically give them a sacred and moral training.

But it took a long time to implement. Rape and murders were extremely common. They would massacre each other in their own families.

A good reminder of just how much we've changed and just how little. This is really new information to me, though. So much for King Arthur and the Knights of the Roundtable.