Are Estonians Scandinavians/Nordic?

[The Ripper]

Tallinn has the most preserved old town in Northern-Europe and one of the most preserved old towns in Europe and the entire world. Tallinn's old town is a perfect example of medieval German architecture. Tallinn even used to have the highest building in the world, St. Olaf's church (which I can see from my window).

This is not my opinion, this is a fact.

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[Graham]

Not a bad thing of course. Germans have good looking cities and squares.

[Pure ja]

Nordic is often considered as an anthropological type. Well, Estonians are not Nordic. Niether linguistically, nor culturally, nor genetically or anthropologically.

I think Karl wants to stress that Estonians are nordic both anthropologically, linguistically, culturally and genetically. And I agree with him on this.

And maybe we should all use less 'Nordic' and more 'Pohjola / Põhjala'.

And as a further note, didn't north-germanics originally call as Nordic those regions of Scandinavia that were still populated with saamis and other finnic peoples? At that time 'Nordic' was a derogative term among north-germanics. It was only when the north-germanic assimilation reached the actual Nordic, that they took it over and started to trademark it as their own.

The closest ethnical group to Finns is probably Karelians who are also not Nordic.

Karelians are just as 'Pohjola / Põhjala / Nordic' as finns and estonians and saamis.

Denying cultural proximity between Estonian and at least some Latvian population that lives close to Estonian border is false.

Sure.
It is just that that cultural proximity has a name, and it is called 'southern baltic-finnic', NOT 'baltic'.

The two groups of people have lived for more than a millennium side by side. The interaction between them was inevitable. Why some young generation Estonian deny the fact is another question.

Estonians deny interaction with latvians based on a baltic language.
Estonians DON'T deny any interaction with latvians based on a baltic-FINNIC language. That is the whole issue - latvians used to be baltic finnic and speak the same language with estonians, now they speak just baltic. Estonians don't want to follow the fate of latvians.

[Pure ja]

Russians are a minority and live in their ghettos.

That is actually a contradiction.
If russians live in ghettos, then they are not a minority in the ghettos.

I guess some of those sets of buildings could be called as ghettos, but I wouldn't use it to describe everything. There is no clear cut divide between ghettos and non-ghettos in Estonia, it is a continuum.

[Pure ja]

Tallinn has nothing on London, or Edinburgh, or St. Andrews, or York, or even Newcastle, the list goes on...

I don't know about St. Andrews, but I believe you could be wrong about Newcastle (upon Tyne, that is). I was impressed by Edinburgh and York, and London. But it would be a tough choice to choose between all those where to live in. Probably not in London or Newcastle.

[Äike]

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No, like really. Tallinn was founded by the Danes, then went under German rule and then under Swedish rule etc. There's a reason why Tallinn's coat of arms is the 3 Danish lions (also the national coat of arms of Estonia) + the Dannebrog being used as the small coat of arms.

Tallinn is the best example of medieval Nordic architecture and Narva was the best (perfect to be precise) of Nordic baroque architecture until WW II.

Haven't you travelled around Northern-Europe at all? For instance, St. Olaf's church in Tallinn, once highest building in the world. Haven't seen something similar in Stockholm for instance?

If you want to know how a Nordic medieval town looked like, then Tallinn is the place to visit. No other old town is this preserved.

Your 2-word troll posts show you in an unintelligent light.

[Pallantides]

Here is native Nordic architecture:



The cities became very German/Danish influenced.

[RussiaPrussia]

Tallinn is superior to London in every regard. I have no idea why anyone would hold up a festering blight like London - a cosmopolitan cesspool entirely dedicated to making money, a nauseating racial sewer, a mega-city shithole of late-Roman proportions - as "better" than the old town of Tallinn. It's a stretch to even call it a British city at all.

Edinburgh and York are fine cities with a rich history, though. Brighton is also pleasant enough. (Apart from those cities, and London, I sadly don't have much personal experience with the UK.)

EDIT: And, lest we forget, my answer to this thread is of course "Karl".

funny how you bitch about london yet look at your country in stockholm

[Ianus]

No, they aren't like Scandos

[Äike]

No, they aren't like Scandos

That's because we are Finnic. A person who says that the Estonians are Scandinavian, is retarded.